Talk:TorSearch

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because...

I assume you are talking about Section 1 (which I just moved to Section 2, so it would be at the bottom) regarding being promotional. The other sections are clearly not promotional in any way.

I was merely trying to articulate the importance of TorSearch on the Deep Web because the administrator of another wiki I contribute to (the Torhost.net Hidden Wiki) warned me that articles that don't state their importance will be deleted under Section A7 of the Criteria for Speedy Deletion.

It seems I'm caught between a rock and a hard place, because if I don't "promote" the site's importance, it can be deleted under section A7, and if I do, it can be deleted under Section G11.

I do not work for TorSearch. I am a student at Carnegie Mellon University (you can trace my IP if you want) and have no relationship to the administrator of TorSearch (who probably lives in another state anyway).

That being said, TorSearch is one of the major search engines on the Deep Web and deserves an encyclopedia article;
after all, it is already listed in Wikipedia's List of Tor hidden services, a page which I've visited somewhat frequently. The Hidden Wiki, for instance, is not any more important than TorSearch, and it has a (rather large) Wikipedia article to its name.

I apologize for the shoddy writing, that may seem like an advertisement because I am in a hurry at the moment, but, please be assured, I intended to come back to this article and make it better.

Instead of deleting the page, please tell me how to rewrite it so it sounds less promotional.
I admit it does sound a bit like a television commercial at the moment, but if you want to fix this, you can just as easily edit it yourself, instead of deleting it.
Like I said, I am just in a hurry and just want to get this article started so I can come back to it later. I was also hoping that somebody else (like you maybe) would fix up the page in the meantime.

TorSearch definitely needs an encyclopedia article, it has 130,000 sites indexed, which might be the largest number of hidden sites indexed by any search engine on the Deep Web. Wikipedia already seems to have a notoriously poor index of Tor hidden services, and I wanted to help change that by contributing. So please don't just reject my contribution; improve it instead, I only added the "promotional" stuff in order to comply with Guideline A7, as the Torhost.net Hidden Wiki administrator warned me (on his wiki) that Wikipedia is fond of deleting these pages if they don't assert their own importance enough. That's the main reason it sounds so promotional--it was actually an effort to comply with your policies. Please tell me how to comply with the guidelines, and don't delete this page. --Amcallister (talk) 21:40, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I had tagged it with the WP:CSD A7 tag rather than the Template:Advert tag. Epicgenius^{(give him tirade • check out damage)} 23:52, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would seem that this website indexes Tor hidden services, which is only a tiny fragment of the Deep Web. Thus, it's not a search engine for the Deep Web, as it has the same problems as regular search engines in indexing that vast amount of data. 94.222.98.116 (talk) 02:58, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tor (network) or The Tor Project?

@User:Greatder stated that TorSearch is not a Tor implementation but is software that is one of the many programs that make use of (and serve) the Tor network The_Tor_Project#Tools. Not all of those have their own pages, and we could probably fit most of what is in this article into the entry there. What do you think? Also @Superastig - please weigh in.

Lamona (talk) 23:14, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe TorSearch is considered an implementation. ASTIG️🙃 _{(ICE-T • ICE CUBE)} 11:56, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is TorSearch is kind of a drive by software which isn't 'endorsed' by for project as the Tools you linked. Unless there's strong sourcing and expansion of the original article TorSearch I don't see it exactly getting merged anywhere. Greatder (talk) 08:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]