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I took a minute to write the pronunciation up with reference, I see it's not needed as pronunciation is at the bottom which I didn't notice at first, but so I didn't completely waste my time, I'll paste it here in case me or someone else wants to use it or look at it later. Not that they will. Reference can only be seen in edit mode. Carlwev 19:48, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Manajaniq vs Manjaniq
I am informed by a person reading Arabic that المنجنيshould be Latinized as manjaniq (with one a) instead of manajaniq. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirrordor (talk • contribs) 14:38, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
In this article, traction trebuchet were used by Chinese as early as 4th century BC, used by Byzantiumc and Muslim in the late 6th century. Then this article claims hand-trebuchet was first used in around 965 AD. Someone insist hand-trebuchet is in front of traction trebuchet by "chronology". I wonder in what kind of "chronology" the event happened around 965 AD will be earlier than events happened in 4th century BC and 6th century. Moreover, the section of hand-trebuchet cited sources  . Even in these source, the traction trebuchet used in 4th century BC was in the leading paragraph and the source also firstly introduces the traction trebuchet. We should edited based on the source cited not some personal ideas from editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 18:44, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed the "somebody" must have been confused, or sleep deprived - mea culpa. Snori (talk) 04:18, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm trying to add to the page in a careful tone that Mozi is a highly unreliable text. So much has been added to it over the centuries, that it's full of physical impossibilities (just have a quick look and try to add up some of the numbers menionted).
In this article though, Mozi is put forward as the proof of the trebuchet being in China centuries BC, without mentioning the serious doubts one must have reading it. On top of that, centuries of 'trebuchet silence' follow Mozi. Then comes the flurry of mentions of some kind of cataput in the T'ang dynasty, but AFAIK without illustrations. Only in the 11th C we see the Chinese trebuchet illustrations.
That's why I propose to make this clear in the text: the questionable nature of Mozi and the absence of clear explanations and illustrations until the 11th centruy AD.
I was surprised my edit was undone within 10 minutes, like someone is hugging this page. Undone without explanation btw. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 16:04, 25 May 2015 (UTC)