Talk:Twelve Bens/Archive 1
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upgraded this
expanded the infobox, made sure the names are correct (and Irish translations), added detailed on the two major climbs. Britishfinance (talk) 15:37, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Editoneer (talk I'm interested in reviewing your article. contribs) 18:49, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
The article is interesting in general only problem I had is with [3] and [4] citations that the informations are located in the book and not in the article itself, but the WP:Verifiability says that the book is published and it is a source. Also the image mostly shows that the article could be about Galway Lake if the reader doesn't know what a Ben is. The article is fine by the way.
Also please note that this is my first review and I'm not an actual professional reviewer and pretty much everyone can review a page for GA. 19:30, 6 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editoneer (talk • contribs)
- Have fixed the caption on the picture to clarify the Lake comment. Britishfinance (talk) 16:02, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- Added additional notes re Paul Tempan's comment and background - he is probably the main active authority on Irish mountain placenames. Britishfinance (talk) 16:09, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
March 2020
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:20, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- ... that according to Irish academic Paul Tempan, "nobody seems to know exactly which are the twelve peaks in question" in the Twelve Bens mountain range in Connemara, in Ireland? Irish Mountain Names Database (page 17-18), Two Mountain Names: Slieve Felim and Mauherslieve (page 121)
- Reviewed: J. Hunter Guthrie
Improved to Good Article status by Britishfinance (talk). Self-nominated at 15:08, 13 March 2020 (UTC).
- New GA status and date confirmed. The GA review looks pretty superficial, but a scan of the article did not see any obvious issues missed by it. QPQ done. Article sourcing appears within DYK standards (which can sometimes be stricter than GA). Interesting and properly sourced hook. The image is legible at low size and appears to be properly licensed. However, Earwig found many improperly copied pieces of text (not counting the properly sourced and attributed direct quotes):
- "a giant and chieftain of the Fir Bolg, whose name features in the village Tuaim Beola (Toombeola)" [from Tempan]
- "the notion of "twelve peaks" goes back to at least the time of ... Ruaidhrí Ó Flaithbheartaigh, who wrote in 1684" [from Tempan]
- "they are just "Na Beanna Beola", or "the peaks of Beola". Beola was a giant and chieftain of the Fir Bolg, whose name also features in ... the village Toombeola" [from Tempan]
- "from sediments deposited in a warm shelf sea between 700 and 550 million years ago ... sediments into crystalline schists within the roots of ... resistant quartzite, while the flanks ... consist of less resistant schists and grey marbles ... The last Ice Age ... 10,000 years ago, imposed a final shaping to the landscape ... deposits of sand and gravel" [from connemaranationalpark.ie/geology-2]
- "of gneiss and various types of sandstones and mudstones ... areas of gabbro (Doughruagh and Currywongaun), mica schist (Muckanaght), and marble outcrops (south of Kylemore Lough)" [from SY002031.pdf]
- "a number of rare Red Data Book plant species" [from SY002031.pdf]
- These all need to be fixed (that is, completely rewritten, not merely closely paraphrased by replacing a few synonyms) before this can be promoted (and @Editoneer: these should already have been caught and fixed by a less-superficial GA review). —David Eppstein (talk) 22:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- David Eppstein, I have re-written these phrases; some of the geological terms are unavoidable, however, I think I have met your concern? thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 23:29, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, I think the rewrite is good enough, and that was the only issue blocking approval. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- David Eppstein, I have re-written these phrases; some of the geological terms are unavoidable, however, I think I have met your concern? thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 23:29, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- New GA status and date confirmed. The GA review looks pretty superficial, but a scan of the article did not see any obvious issues missed by it. QPQ done. Article sourcing appears within DYK standards (which can sometimes be stricter than GA). Interesting and properly sourced hook. The image is legible at low size and appears to be properly licensed. However, Earwig found many improperly copied pieces of text (not counting the properly sourced and attributed direct quotes):