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The university research center

The following unsourced information has been removed from the article, but should be added back in with sources if it's verifiable:

"The Turkish government has created a Van Cat Research Center near the campus of Yüzüncü Yıl University in Van, Turkey, to ensure the survival of the cat." (Has two now-missing details: created by govt., created to ensure survival of the landrace).
"The center, as of 2006^[update], houses around 100 adult cats and kittens."
"It offers free exams and vaccinations for any Van kedisi.
"It is open to the public for a nominal entrance fee."
"The director of the Van Cat Research Center is Zahid Agaoglu."
"The center has reported some success in breeding recently, having all of its ten 'birthing rooms' occupied simultaneously by mothers and their newborn kittens."
"The living conditions for the cats held there leaves much to be desired, and the breeding program seems to be ineffective in reversing the Van cats’ declining numbers."

— SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ɖ^⊝כ^⊙þ Contrib. 12:32, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some of this has been sourced and restored, but much has not. Has anyone looked for sources in other-language versions of this article? — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 11:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked, and most of them are tiny stubs. The Turkish-language article is longer, but is a broken trainwreck; it has completely conflated the Van cat variety with the Turkish Van breed (actually developed in the UK from Turkish cats that were not from the Van area). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 18:18, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Quit exploiting this article for politics!

This cat has nothing to do with the Armenian or PKK topic! -- 194.166.144.163 (talk) 14:50, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

God bless wikipedia moderators. How many irrationalities and absurdities like "armenian cat", "kurdish cat" and "turkish army poisoning cats" do they have to cope with... (By the way: No we Turks are simple monsters, we do not poison cats, we eat them...) :D ... You should come to Turkey to understand how much the cats are loved in this country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.43.227.92 (talk) 14:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the accusation has been convincingly debunked (and that claims pertaining to the cat may have politicised motivations) is important to include in the article, with the source. This necessarily also means including the claim and the sources for it. Consider that if it's all removed, then tomorrow or next week or next year, someone may discover the poisoning claim and re-insert it in the article with sources for it – without anything to contradict it. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 22:45, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, there is no part in Turkey called Kurdistan. It should be called "East of Turkey". Please fix it. 176.41.15.13 (talk) 20:31, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed that bit. Geographical features are enough. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 20:35, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Combine the two sections

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The "Armenian" section should be combined with the history section with rewording or in a separate "Cultural Legacy" section. Having a section titled just "Armenian" is quite odd and unhelpful. If there are no objections, I will proceed with doing so.DriedGrape (talk) 22:17, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are now subsections for Armenian, Ottoman/Turkish, and Kurdish, and this is as it should be (and as it was before people tried to censor the article again). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 09:22, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stop changing this to say "Armenian highlands"

The Armenian highlands are a huge region which is not entirely in Turkey, so writing "found in the Lake Van area of the Armenian highlands in Turkey" is confusing and misleading to the average reader, even if a geographer could parse it correctly. It is clearly being done only as an excuse to inject "Armenian" again, and this slow-editwarring to insist on it is much of the reason this page is locked against anonymous and new-editor edits. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:51, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]