Talk:West Roxbury

Suburban?

I would hardly call West Roxbury a suburban neighborhood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.168.127.6 (talk) 17:31, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's kind of relative -- WR is suburban relative to downtown Boston, probably the most suburban-feeling area within Boston proper -- but certainly less so the most areas farther out. 69.87.200.181 14:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a constant bone of contention outsiders call it suburban people who live here look at you like you have three heads if you say it. There are more suburban areas of boston too, look at moss hill in JP... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.175.250 (talk) 14:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

omg everyone says we are but we're NOT, lol last I checked we're officially called "Boston" -- Vdub49 04:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The current text, "a suburban feel in an urban setting" is accurate. There are definitely parts of Brighton, Dorchester, Jamaica Plain, Hyde Park, and Roslindale that are identical to West Roxbury (ie, single family houses with front lawns and low to medium density commercial areas along the major streets), but these characteristics make up the majority of West Roxbury. As a Boston neighborhood (which is specified in the first sentence of the article), it's not literally a Boston suburb. 66.65.68.196 (talk) 05:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Roxbury Latin

Roxbury Latin is not the oldest school in North America, Boston Latin School is ref 1 says BLS was est 1635, and ref 2 says RL was est in 1645 -- Vdub49 19:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, but Roxbury Latin is the "oldest school in continuous existence in North America". Any dispute on that? Turgidson 19:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I just changed it because I didn't see this post, I wouldn't have if I saw it. But can you explain/define "in continuous existance" for me please? --Vdub49 19:58, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Boston Latin was closed from 1775 to 1776 during the Siege of Boston, while Roxbury Latin, a Loyalist stronghold, remained open. Biruitorul 20:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh it seems like a technicality and a tiny bit misleading by whatever I'll leave it. -- Vdub49 22:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I see your point, but it is a big selling point for the School, and I suppose for WR. Biruitorul 22:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Population??

What is the current population of this city?? --200.161.55.202 (talk) 02:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

West Roxbury is not a city. It was a town, but now is a neighborhood of the city of Boston.

The population has been declining for decades:

• http://www.cityofboston.gov/parks/OpenSpace_07draft/WestRoxburyDemographicHousingTables.pdf

2000 Census 28,663

1990 Census 29,706

1980 Census 31,333

Population growth/decline, 1990 - 2000: -3.51%

Population growth/decline, 1980 - 1990: -5.19%

See also:

• http://www.cityofboston.gov/dnd/PDFs/Profiles/West_Roxbury_PD_Profile.pdf

-96.237.9.226 (talk) 13:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 07:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

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West Roxbury, Boston → West Roxbury — – This is a move over a redirect. Wikipedia article titles should be as succinct as possible, such as The Bronx and Brooklyn. Furthermore, to my knowledge there is no ambiguity in the title "West Roxbury." It can only refer to the neighborhood of Boston. Pgp688 (talk) 01:46, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Request moved here from WP:RM "no contest" section. 69.3.72.249 (talk) 04:03, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

• Support Per nom and WP:TITLE - shorter titles are preferred and titles should be only as precise as necessary. --Born2cycle (talk) 22:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support West Roxbury is considered a neighborhood by the city of Boston. Please see following links from City of Boston. If you look on the Map of Boston - West Roxbury is separated from Roxbury by multiple neighborhoods. Official Boston site for West Roxbury - official map of Boston Markco1 (talk) 23:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
  • What? ~DC ^{We Can Work It Out} 00:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
    • Wait I think I miss-understood this is to move to West Roxbury not remove and merge to Roxbury - If that is the case I am switching - sorry for the confusion Markco1 (talk) 03:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support it's unambiguous; there are no other West Roxburies. I also think East Boston, South Boston, Roslindale, Allston, Jamaica Plain, and Back Bay could be moved, as they're all redirects. And to elaborate on the point above that NYC's borough's are simply under their name, several NYC neighborhoods like SoHo, TriBeCa, Upper East Side, and Flatiron District are listed under the short title. ~DC ^{We Can Work It Out} 00:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Uniquely named neighborhoods of San Francisco, like Haight-Ashbury and Tendernob, are also listed under the short title. --Born2cycle (talk) 02:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
    • It seems that most unique named neighborhoods are listed with short titles, with the exception of Boston ones, and Little Havana. ~DC ^{We Can Work It Out} 03:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support, primary topic, no reason to disambiguate.--Kotniski (talk) 14:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Historic Burying Grounds Initiative

In 1985 the City of Boston, steward of as many as 16 historic cemeteries ranging in date from 1630 to 1841, launched its "Historic Burying Ground Initiative," an ambitious, long-term program encompassing comprehensive inventories and treatment of gravemarkers, landscape rehabilitation, and improved maintenance and security procedures. The Boston initiative involves a number of city agencies and community groups and is believed to be the largest cemetery recordation and restoration project undertaken by local government in the country. Further information may be obtained from the Boston Parks and Recreation Department, 1010 Massachusetts Ave., Boston MA 02118.[1]

Historic Burying Grounds Initiative[2]

Boston's historic cemeteries are important examples of the City's early landscape, linking contemporary Boston with a rich historical legacy. The City of Boston has sixteen historic burying grounds and three larger garden-style cemeteries under its jurisdiction which date between 1630 and 1892 and are located in thirteen Boston neighborhoods. The burying grounds house a rich collection of historic artifacts that tell many stories about Boston's cultural heritage.

The Historic Burying Grounds Initiative (HBGI) is a public/private cooperative program established within the Boston Parks and Recreation Department with the history of the initiative dating back to the early 1970's. Its mission is the comprehensive restoration, on-going conservation, and heritage interpretation of Boston's sixteen historic burying grounds.

List of Burying Grounds

• Bennington Street Burying Ground
• Bunker Hill Burying Ground
• Central Burying Ground
• Copp's Hill
• Dorchester North Burying Ground
• Dorchester South Burying Ground
• Eliot Burying Ground
• Evergreen Burying Ground
• Fairview Cemetery
• Granary Burying Ground
• Hawes/Union Burying Ground
• King's Chapel
• Market Street Burying Ground
• Mount Hope Cemetery
• Phipps Burying Ground
• South End Burying Ground
• Walter Street Burying Ground
• Westerly Burying Ground

-71.174.187.78 (talk) 21:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Boundary history details

A manual for the use of the General Court By Massachusetts. 1900

p.150 NORFOLK COUNTY
WEST ROXBURY
Date of Establishment May 24, 1851 Part of Roxbury.
From what Established or Incorporated, Change of Boundary...
Part of Roxbury. April 21, 1852 part of Dedham annexed upon pay-
ment of $400 by West Roxbury. April 30, 1852 the act accepted by
West Roxbury. July 4, 1853 $400 paid by West Roxbury to Ded-
ham, and the act in effect. April 2, 1870 bounds between West
Roxbury and Boston established. April 12, 1872 part (Mount Hope
Cemetery) annexed to Boston. May 29, 1873 West Roxbury an-
nexed to Boston if the act is accepted by both places. Oct. 7, 1873
the act accepted by both. Jan. 5, 1874 the act took effect.

-96.237.8.174 (talk) 18:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Confusion with Roxbury

The statement: "Many people mistakenly confuse West Roxbury with Roxbury, but the two are not connected. West Roxbury is separated from Roxbury by Jamaica Plain and Roslindale." is anecdotal. In my anecdotal experience it's true, but it's not relevant to the average Wikipedia reader and doesn't belong in this article.

24.128.49.188 (talk) 05:50, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

The Blithedale Romance

I corrected per the article and added in the link.

G. Robert Shiplett 12:48, 29 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grshiplett (talk • contribs)

Population

"This could be due to more rigorous counting procedures instituted by the City of Boston and Massachusetts in an unsuccessful attempt to avoid losing the state's tenth congressional seat."

- This assertion is not even a little bit cited, and is a fairly serious accusation against city officials of cooking the books. Can anyone find a source to back up this claim, or should it be struck? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.3.106 (talk) 22:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Founding garbled

You state: "Founded in 1630, West Roxbury was... ." Then follows the non sequitur that it seceded from Roxbury in 1851. How can a locality be founded before it exists, or at least exists independently? How would it be if a Wiki article said, "The Confederate States of America were founded in 1776. They seceded from the United States starting in 1861"? When did West Roxbury, the name West Roxbury, come into existence? It's the most fundamental possible historical and nomenclatural fact, and it's stated unclearly, if at all.

As it stands, you make it sound as if West Roxbury and Roxbury both existed from 1630. But how likely is that? Did the Puritans literally say, "We hereby found two localities—A and B, B being part of A"? If that is what you mean, say it. If not, state when West Roxbury, the name and place, emerged or was recognized within parent Roxbury. Or if the name came into existence only on its secession, so state.

Jimlue (talk) 22:40, 31 July 2023 (UTC)