Talk:Wrecking Crew (comics)

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Powers and abilities[edit]

Unfortunately, this entry is all POV (point of view) and uses very subjective words. Further to this, the Marvel Handbooks are not recognised as being accurate (and are in fact wrong most of the time). Sources are also needed for all claims. Have another try. Asgardian 03:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I think I mentioned all the instances, if not by specific issue numbers. Damage Control Series, the team-up with Ulik, (which also gave him the return to sender, teleportation, force-field and shockwave he used against meggan of Excalibur) the Byrne fight with Captain America & Iron Fist, the Busiek/Ordway Avengers issues, the run-ins with Toxin & the Runaways, the fight with the New Avengers and more recently Omega Flight.

The handbooks are considered as official comparison charts between the characters, but are completely inaccurate if you want to figure out how the Sub-Mariner's "85-100 ton" strength makes him able to toss water-filled ocean liners. We can't just dismiss what Gruenwald, Brevoort and the guys in-between put down. This is the reason I said "Almost half as strong as Thor ("95-100 tons"), rather than "40 tons" (If I remember correctly he also handled himself very well during their first confrontation when Thor had about half his ordinary strength) or "as strong as Spider-Man" rather than "10 tons". Thunderball being a highly skilled cybernetic engineer, since he helped the Secret Empire rebuild Midnight into a cyborg, and so on. It seems pretty straightforward to me. Couldn't you just have cut out the words you found inappropriate? Dave 15:38, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a crack at it in a day or so. Unfortunately, we can't speculaye and "almost half as strong" is very point-of-view according to Wikipedia. Thor was also depowered by Odin at the time. The next time Thor fought the Wrecker (#177?), he creamed him, and then the entire Wrecking Crew in #304 in something like a minute. Get back to you on this entry. Asgardian 04:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, no problem. I think I've been pretty to the point, even if I don't have the issue numbers at hand, so the added facts as such should probably be kept in some way. Their new energy-absorbtion empowered abilities should probably be mentioned, as well as the seemingly extremely inconsistent power levels. (It also works as a decent 'no-prize' explanation) Dave 14:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Despicable?[edit]

At least Hercules understood the nature of battle and stood a -chance- against the Wrecking Crew. The patrons of the bar were all slaughtered for events most of them had no control over; none stood a chance. Lots42 (talk) 17:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First incarnation[edit]

Seems to be Avengers 39 (1967), at least for Piledriver. There's also a "Hammerhead" (Bulldozer analogue) and a Thunderboot (a white male). Although they aren't explicitly named as the Wrecking Crew, they are introduced via construction/demolition backdrops and appear to have some considerable power - not enough to stop Hercules from ruining their plan (they are working as the Mad Thinker's henchmen) - but enough to defeat the Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Goliath (Pym), the Wasp (van Dyne) and Hawkeye (Barton).

Their powers are technology based, as Hammerhead's costume, while appearing to be a reinforced neck brace and helmet, can also project images and audio; Thunderboot and Piledriver wear boots and gloves, respectively, that somehow "nullifies gravity" (p16) and are made of some "fantastically hard material" (p15) - assuming that they are all three wearing variations of the same devices, which is reasonable. Presumably these devices were fashioned by the Mad Thinker. They are all captured by the Avengers, while the Thinker escapes (the story is contained in this single issue). While they may be an unrelated group, it's hard to believe they didn't inform the creation of the Wrecking Crew seven years later (or the second Hammerhead, in Spider-Man, five years later). However, characteristic of early Avengers villains, they talk like out-of-work classical hams, and not at all like any of their later namesakes (with the possible exception of Thunderball when he is written as an intellectual). None of them are named other than as their alter egos.

The issue was edited by Stan Lee, written by Roy Thomas (who became Marvel's Editor-in-Chief in 1972), and drawn by Don Heck with George Bell on inks.

I have no idea if they or another incarnation reappear before 1974, or even if they come back in #40, 'cause I haven't read it yet :) 92.2.194.149 (talk) 13:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]