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Would these also be known as Dutch Flute-ships?
Would these also be known as Dutch Flute-ships? - Sparky 01:18, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I always thought flutes were kind of tallish and narrow, opposite of xebecs, but despite all my refs, I can't seem to find a good definition here. Stan 01:33, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
From what I'd heard about xebecs, I was of the opinion that they flew lateen sails upwind, then struck them down and swayed up square yards for going downwind, making them fast on all points, but requiring a much bigger crew than normal. Laylaholic 09:28, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Bedini (one of the sources referred to in Dürer's Rhinoceros) says that the beast was brought back from India in a "zambouc". Could this have been a xebec? -- ALoan (Talk) 23:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Zambouc is probably an earlier spelling of the craft now known as "Sambuq" one of the Arab class of vessels known as dhows. See http://www.omanet.om/english/culture/boats.asp?cat=cult
The xebec was a two or three masted lanteen rigged ship with a low slung narrow hull, the foremast being raked to the stem, and the mizzen raked to the stern. Where no mizzen was present (such as in the two masted version), the mainmast remained straight and the foremast raked. However in the article the poleacre xebec is exhibited as the standard type, which is incorrect, as it was actually less common. It also suggests a felucca to be a type of xebec, which is patently ridiculous as it is an entirely different vessel. If any parallels are to be drawn it should be between a xebec and a galley/galleass. ▫Bad▫harlick♠ 15:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
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Don't disrespect etymonline!
The Arabic word ش ب ك not only generates the word net, but also the word 'combat' اشتباك .. Scholarly sources on شباك should be preferred to shallow modern dictionaries,--عبد المؤمن (talk) 03:25, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
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