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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 23:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs)

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

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Prose

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Sorry, I don't know what that's supposed to mean. I'm French, and the terms used simply reflect the articles and books from which they are taken.
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On the contrary, I think it's important to mention the rank in order to emphasise the fact that the testimony comes from someone who used to be high up in the hierarchy (which means several decades in pro sumo). Sumo wrestlers are also called rikishi btw ;)
I am familiar with rikishi, but mainly only due to the professional wrestler of the same name. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On what subject? For the yobidashi: I've only found sources on the lack of a surname. None of them mention the reason for that lack, but one hypothesis is that it comes from the yobidashi's commoner origins. Concerning the names of the people mentioned (like Takamiyama): it is common in sumo articles to mention only the family name, these ring names often being unique.
We're linking to Takamiyama Daigorō, so why not use his full name in the prose.Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reformulated.
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I don't agree with that, as it would reduce the clarity of the information. It won't have escaped your notice that a dohyo doesn't really look like the ring you imagine it to be when you say 'ring' (like those used in pro wrestling or boxing, for example).
In a simplified sentence, I wanted to emphasise the fact that they had duties other than those performed in public, which they carried out in a more discreet way.

General

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Both in truth, the appearance of people performing a more or less similar role is detailed just after.
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  • and it's not uncommon for most of the newcomers to be amateur wrestlers who haven't managed to break through but are keen to stay in the world of sumo, which fascinates them. - condense. This is puffy to state they are fascinated. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 00:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Removed term
  • as described - what?
The term referred to the hierarchical presentation immediately following. Misleading, I deleted it.
I'd still like to keep the link to the currency used. Otherwise done.
  • Since October 2019 the tate-yobidashi position has been vacant after the incumbent, Takuro, from Kasugano stable, was suspended for two tournaments and announced his retirement for hitting a junior yobidashi over the head after he caught him eating in the customer seating area on jungyō.[ - as this has now been usurped, it can be removed. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 00:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm (weakly) leaning towards keeping the information, as it shows that the top of the hierarchy can be vacant.
Sentence deleted, as regards the first remark.
The term is the one used by John Gunning. The yobidashi discreetly use small sheets of paper tucked away in their pockets to avoid making a mistake by calling a wrestler by the wrong name. I think this term captures that.
Can we not just say "use notes", rather than a slang term. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Review meta comments

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Thank you for your feedback. I've replied in the body of the comments. - OtharLuin (talk) 17:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've left some additional comments, but happy to promote. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.