Template:Did you know nominations/Background of the 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:36, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Background of the 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising[edit]
- ... that the roots of Bahraini uprising stretch back to the 1920s?
- Reviewed: Tan's Film
Created/expanded by Bahraini Activist (talk). Self nom at 12:41, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm a newbie and this is my first review of a DYK nomination so someone check my work. The article: is new (split off from a main article named Bahraini uprising (2011–present)), possibly long enough (DYKcheck=5360 when created but see the following paragraph), has good references (one in Arabic, one subscription required out of 56 currently; AGF), a good hook format, source and appeal. But:
- The main article has a section called Background with essentially the same subheadings the new subarticle. Part of the text that appears in the new article is a slightly paraphased version of the main article. I don't know how to prove that the new material amounts to 1500 prose characters or a 5X expansion, although I certainly believe so, given the length of the current article. (I'm not so sure about the created version or the version after 5 days.) --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 15:11, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for reviewing the article. I believe you got the image wrong. The article was moved from my userspace on 14:23, 22 July 2012. After few minutes, on 14:49, 22 July 2012, I copied the lead to the main article (with inline citations added). I hope this clarifies the issue. Mohamed CJ (talk) 15:44, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't understand but it's probably my fault. The revision history says that you created the "Background of" article at 09:28 on the 12th of July, 2012. You say that you moved it from userspace at 14:23 on 22 July. Wouldn't the revision history show that movement, if only the time and date? As far as you're concerned, when did you create the "Background of" article in main namespace? If it isn't the 12th, how can I prove that to myself?
- (I've got similar problems with the lead of the "Bahraini uprising" article but one thing at a time. As I said, I'm new to all of this. :) --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 22:12, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
- You're right. I've created the article on 12 July with the edit summary "stub", then I started expanding and developing it. When I felt it was ready on 22 July, I moved it from my userspace to mainspace. The edit summary on 14:23, 22 July 2012 shows that clearly. The DYK check tool confirms that as well. Please note that my username back then was "Bahraini Activist". The rest is just as I have explained above. The date of moving an article from userspace to mainspace counts as the date of creation by DYK means:
d) Articles that have been worked on exclusively in a user or user talk subpage or at articles for creation and then moved (or in some cases pasted) to the article mainspace are considered new as of the date they reach the mainspace. --WP:DYK
- You're right. I've created the article on 12 July with the edit summary "stub", then I started expanding and developing it. When I felt it was ready on 22 July, I moved it from my userspace to mainspace. The edit summary on 14:23, 22 July 2012 shows that clearly. The DYK check tool confirms that as well. Please note that my username back then was "Bahraini Activist". The rest is just as I have explained above. The date of moving an article from userspace to mainspace counts as the date of creation by DYK means:
- It's a good idea to notify editors when there are problems with their DYK nominations using {{subst:DYKproblem|Background of the 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising|header=yes|sig=yes}} template found on the top of the editing box. Obviously, you don't need to notify me since I'm watching the page, but some may not do the same. Also if you have questions about a nomination such as here, you can ask for help in the discussion page. Mohamed CJ (talk) 22:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
You're right. For some reason, I simply didn't see the 14:23 entry on the revision history. Article was created in main namespace on 14:23, 22 July 2012 with 18,383 prose characters (via DYKcheck). For this and the reasons stated in the first paragraph, good to go. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 02:45, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
