Template:Did you know nominations/Mount St Mary's Church, Leeds
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:25, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
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Mount St Mary's Church, Leeds
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that Mount St Mary's Church, Leeds (pictured) was built on top of a coal mine and the mine shaft could be accessed through the sacristy?
- Comment: The source of the hook can be found in the Repairs section
Created by Pjposullivan (talk). Self nominated at 18:26, 11 April 2014 (UTC).
No QPQ, but it seems the user has not nominated articles to DYK previously so that's OK. Article is new and long enough. It is in-line sourced to several online-sources. The main source as well as some others are to homepages etc. and not the typical independent reliable sources, but I believe we can accept this kind of sources for these kind of articles (churches). The article focuses relatively heavy on the parish as opposed to church architecture, but again I think this is within policy. The paragraph on Corpus Christi Church maybe strays a bit from the topic and could be shortened. I found a small tendency to close paraphrasing, like in this sentence "lectern and credence table to allow mass to be said facing the people" (Post-Vatican sectin), so that should be rewritten. The last paragraph could have more inline-citations. The hook is short enough and interesting, but I think the latter part the mine shaft could be accessed through the sacristy? is somewhat misleading as the rest of the sentence in the article says it was blocked off during the church's construction. Maybe it should rather just say "built on top of a coal mine"? And the only source is the homepage of the Oblates, which most probably is reliable, but it's not the kind of sources we normally refer to as "reliable sources" at Wikipedia. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 16:47, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
There hasn't been any response here from Pjposullivan, and there needs to be, if only to fix the hook given Iselilja's point about the mine not being accessible through the sacristy as it was bricked up when the church was built and stayed that way except while the renovations were being made. There are also paragraphs without sourcing: the opening paragraphs of "Parish" and "Closures" need sourcing (the first sentences of both second paragraphs are overly similar, in my opinion), and the final sentence of "Closures" needs sourcing, as it reads like WP:OR or speculation to me without it. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:06, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
- OK, what about
- ALT1 ... that Mount St Mary's Church, Leeds (pictured), was built on an abandoned mine and has a bricked up access to the mine from the sacristy?
- I found a more credible source about the history of the church. Hope you like it. Cheers for the advice so far, your points have been really constructive and have helped me improve the article. Thank you, Pjposullivan (talk) 22:33, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
