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Residence

WP:BLPPRIVACY says that "articles should not include postal addresses, e-mail addresses, telephone numbers, or other contact information for living persons, although links to websites maintained by the subject are generally permitted" and later "If you see personal information such as phone numbers, addresses, account numbers, etc. in a BLP or anywhere on Wikipedia, edit the page to remove it and contact the oversight team so that they can evaluate it and possibly remove it from the page history." With this policy language, should "residence" remain a parameter in this template? My sense is that it should be deleted from the template to discourage editors from entering information that would violate BLPPRIVACY. --Enos733 (talk) 20:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't see a problem with residence as long as it is only used for residences which come with the office held: it is reasonable to record that Joe Biden is resident at the White House. But it should not be used for any private residences: so at the Rishi Sunak page we should only list 10 Downing Street and Chequers and should remove the curent reference to Kirby Sigston Manor which is a purely private house. Perhaps the parameter should be changed to "official residence" or similar? Jonathan A Jones (talk) 20:24, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Note also that this parameter was removed from the main person template following this discussion. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm wondering if it might actually belong here, but with some guidance on what is appropriate. When it comes to electoral districts or constituencies, the town/city in which a representative lives might be a germane use of this kind of parameter. I'm not necessarily arguing this is the case, but it is certainly a perspective worth considering. I don't think that would really fall under BLP concerns, and official residences are of course well-suited to such a parameter. VanIsaac, GHTV ^cont_WpWS 17:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Template not displaying correctly on Charles Harper (politician)

I recently made changes to Charles Harper (politician) to include all of their offices, but have noticed that under the first office ("2nd Speaker of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly") the predecessor and successor are not showing. I have checked all of the parameters and can't find any errors. Both fields were showing at multiple points when I was previewing the changes I was making but in the final published edit the information isn't displaying. Can someone please tell me what I've done wrong and how to correct it? Adam Black ^{talk • contributions} 20:09, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I have managed to fix this myself by appending "1" to each of the parameters for that office, but I'm going to leave this discussion here as it does seem like there is an issue with the template. For the edit I was referring to above, see here. Adam Black ^{talk • contributions} 20:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Add criminal fields

John Politician
Representative Example
Criminal charge	doing crime
Penalty	wrist slapping

Because there is a growing list of politicians turned criminals, I propose that we add fields (criminal_charge, convinction_penalty, and conviction_status) from Template:Infobox criminal to Template:Infobox officeholder in the same way that they have been made available in Template:Infobox person.

Currently, there is a dispute about adding an instance of Template:Infobox criminal to the page of Donald Trump following his criminal conviction. Given that some argue that the use of Template:Infobox criminal is too strong, the amendment of Template:Infobox officeholder as previously mentioned could provide a compromise. Bgregz (talk) 00:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Criminal-related parameters can already be available via module - see example right. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

I was not aware of this, thank you! Bgregz (talk) 14:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

What was the rationale for incorporating those parameters into {{infobox person}} rather than using that infobox's |module= parameter? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 03:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

It appears that the criminal parameters there predate the implementation of |module=. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)