Template talk:Unsigned

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No parameter version[edit]

Please add support for using this template with no parameters.

The main drawback of leaving your comments unsigned is that the autoarchiving bots will then not archive that talk section. If I want to remedy this problem, the unsigned template family currently does not allow me to do this without a lot of bother. I couldn't care less about the exact user name and date, and just want the comment to be signed. Currently, there's no template for this, forcing me to simply post a new comment saying "the previous comment was unsigned ~~~~".

Adding support for no parameters to this template would solve this irritant, like this:

{{unsigned}} produces <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding comment was [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]].</span> ~~~~:

Some random comment. — Preceding comment was unsigned. CapnZapp (talk) 09:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

This would add the formatting and the class assignment(?) that editors otherwise can't be bothered to mess around with. Please stop believing that making things hard for people will make them follow your rules. The only practical result of the misguided attempt to force people to research the arguments just to be allowed to use the bloody template is... that people will bypass the template! Somewhat yours, CapnZapp (talk) 09:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

While it's possible consensus has changed since last year, it's more likely you should just drop the stick. Your best bet is probably to find consensus (elsewhere, not here) that {{unsigned-unk}} should be undeleted. Anomie 12:08, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Is Special:Contributions necessary?[edit]

FAILED

Clear consensus against proposal. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (talk) 06:11, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I was wondering if the Special:Contributions link is really necessary. I mean, if users add a standard WP:4TILDES signature, there's no mention of Special:Contributions; only the username and a talk link are shown (varied by preference settings). Further, if a user changes their username, their old username and talk link are given redirects, but the Special:Contributions link is broken.

If a user wishes to add a link to their contributions, they can—and do so—through custom preferences. If someone wishes to see that user's contributions, they can navigate to that user's page or talk page, and click the User contributions link that's along the left edge of the screen.

I therefore propose removing the Special:Contributions link from {{Unsigned}}, {{Unsigned IP}}, and {{Single-purpose account}}.
I have placed discussion links on the other two talk pages. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (talk) 03:52, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Nothing is necessary but the contributions link is desirable. Experience shows that the templates mentioned above are often used with problematic users and a quick way to see the contribs is useful. Johnuniq (talk) 05:32, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
What about existing unsigned signatures following a username change? Lacking a redirect, the Special:Contributions link pulls up a "not registered" error. That's how I became aware of the problem—revisiting one of my unsigned comments from +10 years ago (see example). In my particular case, I just removed the contributions link for the 'four tildes' reason I stated above. I'm interested in suggestions on when the link is broken. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (talk) 06:02, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Personally I find the contributions link in this template very beneficial to the project. Often new users do not know how to sign their comments, and it is helpful to quickly navigate to the contributions and see if they have failed to do so anywhere else. It also helps with problematic new users, especially. Net positive for the project, I see the username change issue as an extremely small downside for a big benefit.— Shibbolethink ( ) 16:11, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Little benefit. If the problem really mattered, it wouldn't be hard to roll a robot to detect name changes, look through the talk page contributions, and twiddle the username in the contributions link. But the problem doesn't really matter, and the usefulness of the contributions link outweighs the occasional shameful and embarrassing failure of the link. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 16:29, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Observation: The current vibe I am getting from this question is that if I forget to sign, and I don't like the Special:Contributions link that appears as a result of my negligence, then to correct only my comment, but the unsigned templates that add them won't be changed as requested. If there are not enough supportive replies to balance the opposition after 30 7 days, then I will consider this a consensus to be archived. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (talk) 18:46, 4 September 2021 (UTC) (edited 02:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC))
    You could simply not forget to sign your posts. I am typing my post with a clear message to sign my posts. There's userscripts, or even better, gadgets you can enable on your account. For instance, a beta feature currently available is "Discussion Tools" and it will auto sign your replies. In short, I see the contributions link very helpful here. – The Grid (talk) 21:19, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
    The instance being referred to, along with one or two others, were from 2009 when I was new and entirely unfamiliar with the 'four tildes'. I think inexperienced editors are forgiven for being unfamiliar with gadgets and scripts. Face-plain.svg — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (talk) 00:23, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Template Unsigned2 is deprecated?[edit]

Template {{Unsigned2}} is deprecated? Please see Template_talk:Unsigned2#Deprecated_template?--Estopedist1 (talk) 06:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 21 October 2021[edit]

Always sign your comments with ~~~~ should be added, so it looks like this. EthanGaming7640 (talk) 18:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. There are a lot of changes in this version. Please discuss. Why did you delete |2=, for example? – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:39, 21 October 2021 (UTC)