User:Atomaton/scratch

RFC Discussion -- best image for the article[edit]

The history of the article shows that:

There has been dispute over what image is best for the article. The article was created in June of 2003, with no image.[1].
The first image entered the article in September of 2004[2]. The image[:Autofellatio.jpg] is a hand drawing, and lasted to around February of 2005, when another image File:Autofellatio drawing.jpg (which has since been deleted entered the article).
In March of 2005 [3] this image (another line drawing) entered the article [:File:Autofellation drawing 2.jpg] and remained the consensus image through January of 2009.
The previous long standing image was replaced in January of 2009 by File:Autofellatio B-W.jpg this image, the first photograph Which lasted until late May of 2009.
The next image starting in late May of 2009, File:Fellatio-auto.jpg (also a photograph) was put in place, lasting until early June of 2009.
In June of 2009[:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Autofellatio&oldid=294641984], this photograph came to be used File:Autofellatio3.jpg, and gained consensus, lasting until late February of 2010.
Since February there has been no consensus on an image, with the following images entering and leaving the article in Late February and March. No one image has been agreed upon since then. Images placed have been, File:Autofellatio5.jpg [4], File:Autofellation drawing 2.svg [5], File:Fellatio-auto.jpg [6]

The image with the longest consensus, of nearly four years, was File:Autofellation drawing 2.jpg.

In June of 2009 a discussion about the images occurred, which among other things discussed concerns about the copyright status of some of the commons images. An examination of each of these commons images shows them all as properly licenses for use on Wikipedia.[7] An editor offered to take a self portrait for use in the article, which a few other editors suggested was acceptable. That image is the current lead image File:Autofel.svg recently placed, but disputed.

Images available for use in the article on the Wikipedia Commons site include:

In choosing an appropriate image for the photo, a number of factors should be considered, primary among them is which image represents the topic best. The quality and visibility of the topic is important. Photographs that follow Wikipedia policies and guidelines is also important. Also important is that the participating editors come to a consensus. This RfC is not a vote. If no consensus can be reached, we should go back to the last known consensus image, which I believe is File:Autofellatio3.jpg.

I don't think we should choose the line drawings, or the black and white images. I think that the image File:Fellatio-auto.jpg is the best image from the perspective of showing the topic with the most clarity. The images File:Autofellatio-Kiki51.jpg, Fellatio-auto.jpg and File:Autofel.svg are okay images but each has issues making them less clear or desirable that the one I recommended, mostly that they do not display the topic as well. Additionally the self-portrait images submitted by an editor of the article, including File:Autofel.svg are not desirable for me because they are vanity images, and eschewed by the Sexology and Sexuality Wikiproject in sexuality articles as it promotes other editors to try and force images their genitals in a variety of articles. We have discussed this in the past at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sexology_and_sexuality/WIP-image-guidelines#No_vanity_images. The basic problem is that editors try to use pictures of themselves or their girlfriend or partner in articles. This can cause Wikipedia:Conflict of interest issues and wp:own debates that effect the quality of the article. As there are other images that can be used, and several of them display the topic of the article with more clarity, there is no reason to use an image that has built in conflict of interest issues. Atom (talk) 00:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)