Draft:Bill Carmody
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Submission declined on 29 June 2023 by CNMall41 (talk). This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies. Declined by CNMall41 10 months ago. |
- Comment: If you want this to be reviewed again, you should submit it to AfC again. asilvering (talk) 21:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: I must reply at some length here because the explanatory note by @Timtrent: does not accurately reflect the state of the article or in some cases, Wikipedia policy, at least as I read it. I do appreciate that Timtrent said providing sufficient references to verify facts in the draft “is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability).” The explanation below shows that the facts in this draft are properly verified.As a preface, following the Comment by CNMall41 below, I moved the draft back to Sandbox and completely rewrote most of it to address their objections, making it much shorter. Editors can compare the old version [1] to the new version below. The Comment no longer reflects the current state of the page. Regarding the recent decline by Timtrent, nowhere did I assert that notability is based on William Carmody’s high-profile cases. The cases are included because under MOS:SNO, the section headers similar articles can be followed and the bios of highly prominent lawyers contain sections with significant discussions of their cases. E.g. David Boies. I also emulated WP:GA of litigators such as F. Lee Bailey and Carrie Goldberg, which have sections with cases.Rather, notability for Carmody is established under WP:BIO, which I have carefully studied. Perhaps some of the significant coverage of Carmody was not fully considered because of paywalls, so I have posted excerpts from paywalled content on Talk. (User talk:Backyard116/sandbox/Bill Carmody#Paywalled References) * "Lawyer to Ex-WeWork CEO Neumann Wins Big by Betting on Himself" Bloomberg Law [2]* "Titan Of The Plaintiffs Bar: Susman Godfrey's Bill Carmody", Law360 [3]* "In Waymo v. Uber, an Encore Showdown for Lead Counsel at Quinn and Susman" in in Law360 [4]* "Attorney heading lawsuit against pharmaceutical giants known for ‘betting the company’" in CBS news [5]* "Carmodys breaks from traditional law firm look in Dallas Business Journal" [6]Carmody has also received significant additional coverage in the mainstream independent press, well beyond passing mentions, and these can be combined to demonstrate notability. (“multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability” WP: BIO). Again, I have posted excerpts of paywalled contentto make it easier to review (User talk:Backyard116/sandbox/Bill Carmody#Paywalled References). *"Match, IAC Tap High-Profile Litigator for $2 Billion Tinder Suit" [7]*"Waymo v. Uber Trial Opens With a Battle of Sports Metaphor" [8]*With LIBOR Suit, Baltimore Reinforces Role as Banking Watchdog: [9]Finally, every source I used to verify facts includes a specific reference to Carmody. Timtrent’s assertion that a source must be “about them” to establish any fact confuses noteworthy WP: Noteworthy with notability. “The notability guideline does not apply to the contents of articles… Content coverage within a given article or list (i.e. whether something is noteworthy enough to be mentioned within the article or list) is governed by the principle of due weight, balance, and other content policies.” The Noteworthy policy states that “high-quality references” are required to establish facts in bios of living persons, particularly personal details. The draft fully satisfies this.All the references are from high quality publications. Other than one cite to a law school website to establish where he went to law school and his year of graduation, I do not use any WP:Primary or WP:SELFPUB. The law school website falls squarely within the criteria for Primary – “straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge.” That said, to make it a non-issue, I have changed the citation to Bloomberg and deleted the university website, even though it means losing the year of graduation. Backyard116 (talk) 19:11, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: It is going to be difficult to create a draft if this is in fact someone you known personally. People tend to write in a more promotional tone for those they know. With that in mind, this draft reads like a resume and is highly promotional. For example, the second sentence mentions clients as if representing this clients gives him notability for Wikipedia. Notability is not WP:INHERENT. CNMall41 (talk) 22:57, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. (November 2023) |
Bill Carmody | |
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Born | |
Alma mater | United States Merchant Marine Academy, Kings Point (B.S.)[1]
The University of Tulsa College of Law (JD) |
Occupation | Trial lawyer |
Employer | Susman Godfrey |
Spouse | Catherine Gillis Carmody |
William Christopher “Bill” Carmody is an American trial lawyer.[1][2] He is a partner at Susman Godfrey.[3][2]. He had his own firm in Dallas prior to joining Susman Godfrey.[4][5] Carmody is known for working on large-scale corporate trials[6][7] and for being paid based on results.[3][1]
Early life and education[edit]
Carmody was born in Manhattan, NY, and raised on Long Island, NY.[1][8] He graduated from the United States Merchant Marine Academy; Carmody worked as a bartender in Miami and Tulsa, and graduated from The University of Tulsa College of Law.[1]
Legal career[edit]
In 1992, Carmody left Fulbright & Jaworski to start a firm with a partner.[9][5] In 1994, Carmody started another law firm, focused on personal injury and business litigation.[5][1] The firm became known for representing small companies against big corporations.[5][4]
He later joined the Dallas office of law firm Susman Godfrey.[10][9] In 2007, Carmody left Texas to head Susman Godfrey’s New York office.[10][11] Carmody is known for working on large-scale corporate trials[6][7] and for being paid based on results.[1][3]
Notable cases[edit]
Carmody defended investor Dan Loeb and his hedge fund Third Point Management against allegations Loeb and other hedge fund managers created a disinformation campaign around Fairfax Financial in order to drive down its stock price as part of a short-selling scheme.[12] The Canadian insurer’s $8 billion lawsuit was dismissed by a New Jersey judge in December 2011.[13][9]
Carmody was appointed co-lead class counsel representing the city of Baltimore, Yale University and over-the-counter investors[14] in a 2011 antitrust class-action suit against financial firms accused of manipulating the London Interbank Offered Rate (LIBOR).[15][16] As of 2018, $590 million in settlements had been paid to over-the-counter investors.[17][2]
In 2015, Carmody represented David Kester, a whistleblower who claimed drug manufacturer Novartis defrauded Medicare and Medicaid programs by paying pharmacies illegal kickbacks for recommending Novartis drugs.[18][19] Novartis, Accredo Health Group and Bioscrip Corporation paid $465 million in total to settle the False Claims Act charges, the largest recovery by the government in a False Claims Act lawsuit based solely on kickbacks.[19]
Carmody represented General Electric Capital - a unit of General Electric - in 2017, in a breach of contract trial against Nebraska Investment Finance Authority (NIFA) over guaranteed investment contracts, winning a $161 million judgment.[2][14]
In 2018,[14] Carmody represented Uber as the lead trial lawyer defending it in a $2 billion lawsuit filed by Waymo, which alleged Uber had stolen trade secrets protecting Waymo’s self-driving car technology.[20][21] After four days of trial, Uber and Waymo settled, with Uber reportedly giving Waymo a stake in Uber worth $245 million.[1]
In 2021, Carmody represented former WeWork co-founder and CEO Adam Neumann,[3] helping him secure a reported $480 million settlement from SoftBank after it canceled its tender offer to purchase up to $3 billion in WeWork stock.[22][23]
When dating company Match.com and IAC/InterActiveCorp were sued by the Tinder co-founders in a $2 billion lawsuit for allegedly understating the dating app’s value in 2017, Carmody was brought in as lead trial counsel for the defendants.[24][6] The lawsuit was settled in December 2021, days before the end of trial, with Match.com agreeing to pay $441 million to the plaintiffs, and to others who agreed to drop related suits.[25][26]
In May 2023, Carmody helped hedge fund manager Louis Bacon secure a $203 million award for Bacon in a defamation lawsuit against Canadian fashion executive Peter Nygard.[3]
Personal life[edit]
Carmody lives in Miami Beach, Florida with his wife Catherine.[27] He was previously married to Nikki Carmody Ream.[28]
References[edit]
- ^ a b c d e f g h Opfer, Chris (21 July 2021). "Lawyer to Ex-WeWork CEO Neumann Wins Big by Betting on Himself". Bloomberg Law. Retrieved 8 June 2022.
- ^ a b c d Perlman, Matthew (16 May 2018). "Titan Of The Plaintiffs Bar: Susman Godfrey's Bill Carmody". Law360. Retrieved 27 June 2022.
- ^ a b c d e Murphy, Vanessa (6 June 2023). "Attorney heading lawsuit against pharmaceutical giants known for 'betting the company'". 8 News Now. CBS. Retrieved 13 June 2023.
- ^ a b Friend, Janin (25 July 1999). "Carmodys breaks from traditional law firm look". Dallas Business Journal. Retrieved 23 June 2022.
- ^ a b c d Carroll, Rick (19 January 1997). "Carmody firm may be tiny, but judgment was mighty". Dallas Business Journal. Retrieved 23 June 2022.
- ^ a b c Opfer, Chris (19 October 2021). "Match, IAC Tap High-Profile Litigator for $2 Billion Tinder Suit". Bloomberg Law. Retrieved 24 June 2022.
- ^ a b Hancock, Ben (2 February 2018). "In Waymo v. Uber, an Encore Showdown for Lead Counsel at Quinn and Susman". Law.com. Retrieved 31 August 2022.
- ^ Schaefer, Ralph (23 May 2014). "Attorneys, judges honored at University of Tulsa College of Law Alumni Association event". Tulsa World. Retrieved 13 June 2022.
- ^ a b c Dewey, Katrina (18 June 2017). "The Producers: Bill Carmody Of Susman Godfrey". Lawdragon. Retrieved 14 June 2022.
- ^ a b Dewey, Katrina (3 December 2017). "Don't Mess With Texas: How Lawyers At Susman Godfrey Formed America's Leading Trial Law Firm". Lawdragon. Retrieved 13 June 2022.
- ^ Chen, Vivia (13 December 2016). "Santa Visits Susman Godfrey: Up to $140K in Bonus!". American Lawyer. Retrieved 29 September 2022.
- ^ "Reporters caught up in Fairfax case". Financial Post. Reuters. 9 March 2011. Retrieved 13 June 2022.
- ^ Or, Amy (26 December 2011). "Court Dismisses Fairfax Financial Suit". Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 21 June 2022.
- ^ a b c Staff (9 October 2018). "Attorney of the Year Finalist" (PDF). New York Law Journal. Retrieved 8 June 2022.
- ^ Kilar, Steve (15 July 2012). "With LIBOR Suit, Baltimore Reinforces Role as Banking Watchdog". Baltimore Sun. Retrieved 10 June 2022.
- ^ Vaughan, Bernard (5 March 2013). "Banks urge U.S. judge to throw out Libor lawsuits". Reuters. Retrieved 21 June 2022.
- ^ Stempel, Jonathan (29 March 2018). "HSBC to pay $100 million to end Libor rigging lawsuit in U.S." Reuters. Retrieved 22 June 2022.
- ^ McGill, Margaret Harding (4 March 2015). "Novartis Told To Produce Docs In Kickbacks Suit By March 13". Law360. Retrieved 29 September 2022.
- ^ a b Editorial Staff (20 November 2015). "Novartis To Pay $390 Million to Settle False Claims Charge". Corporate Crime Reporter. Retrieved 8 June 2022.
- ^ Wakabayashi, Daisuke (5 February 2018). "Waymo v. Uber Trial Opens With a Battle of Sports Metaphors". The New York Times. Retrieved 10 June 2022.
- ^ Hook, Leslie (5 February 2018). "Start of Waymo-Uber trial highlights vicious competitions". Financial Times. Retrieved 20 September 2022.
- ^ Chen, Ruiqi (15 December 2021). "Litigation Boutiques Nearly Double Big Law Firm Bonuses". Bloomberg Law. Retrieved 13 June 2022.
- ^ Farrell, Maureen; Brown, Eliot (25 February 2021). "WeWork's Adam Neumann to Get Extra $50 Million Payout in SoftBank Settlement". Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 18 June 2022.
- ^ Dolmetsch, Chris (8 November 2021). "Diller's IAC duped Tinder founders on phony growth, lawyer says". Los Angeles Times. Bloomberg. Retrieved 23 June 2022.
- ^ Baxter, Brian (11 May 2022). "Match Law Chief's Pay Soared as Company Prepped Google Suit". Bloomberg Law. Retrieved 24 June 2022.
- ^ Grossman, Matt (1 Dec 2021). "Match Group Settles Lawsuit Over Tinder's Valuation". Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 20 June 2022.
- ^ Kallergis, Katherine (27 May 2021). "Attorney Bill Carmody buys PH at Monad Terrace, relocates to Miami Beach". The Real Deal. Retrieved 13 June 2022.
- ^ "The Rancho Santa Fe Women's Fund honors Foundation for Women Warriors with $50,000 grant". KUSI. McKinnon Broadcasting Company. 30 June 2022. Retrieved 23 June 2023.
This means that while you may feel that the section you have chosen to title "Notable cases" holds sway here it does not, the more so since you have chosen the word "Notable" in the title.
A lawyer represents clients. This is WP:ROTM behaviour. We truly have no interest in it. What interests us is whether references show them to be notable.
For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
The key words are "about them".
The foregoing means I am declining your first attempt at submission with the request that you work on understanding and meeting Wikipedia's needs