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Article Evaluation -philosophy
[edit]The second sentence of the article sounds a little bit off or incorrect using the world "probably". I believe better word choice and sentence structure can be used. The classic philosophical questions can also be changed to sound better, especially the one about what is most real. I also think there should be a few sentences added to talk about how different regions in the world have come up with many different forms of philosophy. It should say a few of the worlds most renowned and influential philosophers like Aristotle, Socrates, Confucius, among others. Fortunately, none of the information is out of date. The tone of the article is unbiased and to the point with a neutral tone. There are many parts of the article that are under represented such as any reference to other philosophical thought beside western traditions, most notably in the opening summary of the article.
The sources all decent. Every link works and there is many citations for multiple source articles. In the East Asian Philosophy section there is a missing source about half way through the paragraph. However, all sources that are listed seem to be academic, reliable sources. As states, there are some underrepresented topics that could be within this summary of what philosophy is such as mentions to more eastern philosophy.
There is talk about sources going on in the talk section of the philosophy article. One person said the "reality" and "existence" links, link to each other. The article is considered a C class article.The article is part of WikiProjects. Most of the content on the talk section of philosophy is about sources, links and editing. This was all covered in the training.
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[edit]African Philosophy needs to be improved is is rated as a "Start Class Article". This is a topic with many reliable sources including "Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy". This source itself is very reliable and also the bibliography is very useful to have access to. The article on Wikipedia has not had that much activity on the talk page. Only once this year and before that was 2016. The article also lacks citations. There are only about 10 citations for the entire article.
Chinese New Year This article is a "C-Class article" there is not as much room for improvement. However, I would be interested in improving the grammar and tone of the article. As the Chinese club president as IUP I have used many sources for researching the Spring Festival.
Gerg Gigerenzer This article is very poor grammatically and is lacking sources. The first paragraph has no citations present. Last year I wrote a research paper on Gerg Gigerenzer and I believe I could use those sources to improve this article. This article could also use links with pictures to examples of what Gigerenzer is talking about when we talks about rationality and human beings.
Philosophy I also think i could continue improving the philosophy section based on my notes above.
2-4-19 Class- Practicing visual editing
[edit]Evaluating Pre-Socratic Philosophy
[edit]I think the summary in the beginning of the article is somewhat vague. It does not contain very much information and of the information it does contain it should be more specifically about the Pre-Socratic Philosophers and less about people like Aristotle. The opening of the article should be more about Pre-Socratic philosophy. I believe recommendations for improving this could include adding a very brief summaries of how different Pre-Socratic philosophers contributed to philosophy. The overview contains points that lack citations such as the claim about the major analyses of Pre-Socratic philosophy talking about Nietzsche, Barnes and Vlastos. In addition, the points made in the overview are often very vague and do not point out specific examples to cover what exactly they are talking about. Information about the schools of philosohy are also lacking in good information. There is a lot more information on the Milesian school and the Ephesian school that can be added to help improve this article. In the Milesian school and Ephasian school's categories for information can particularly be added to Thales, Anaximander and Anaximenes. This would help the underrepresented nature of the article as a whole as it is lacking in many areas equally, particularly about the schools of thought. The Ephesian school contains no citations at all. Information about Parmenides is also lacking as I know there is more information available about him. Nothing in the article is filled with any bias and the sources that it does contain are of unbiased nature and are mostly good sources as far as I can tell. Te article is within the scope of WikiProject Philosophy and there had been some recent activity on this articles talk page. Some of the points people are making include for example, whether or not keep the ideas about the Sophists or rid of this since the sophists are a very active group after the time of Socrates. The article is an S- class article which means there is a lot of room for improvement. So far the Wiki article only partially achieves its rhetorical objective because of its lack of information.
Notes on how to improve pre-Socratic Philosophy
[edit]Talk about Heraclitus' and the unity of opposites. He finds importance in the idea that things stay the same and change over periods of time. Heraclitus talks about the interconnections of the world.[1]
Section of the article I am going to begin to Change from Pre-Socratic Philosophy
A number of early Greek philosophers active before and during the time of Socrates are collectively known as the pre-Socratics. Their inquiries spanned the workings of the natural world as well as human society, ethics, and religion, seeking explanations based on natural principles rather than the actions of supernatural gods. They introduced to the West the notion of the world as a kosmos, an ordered arrangement that could be understood via rational inquiry.[2]
In Classical antiquity, the pre-Socratic philosophers were called physiologoi (Greek: φυσιολόγοι; in English, physical or natural philosophers).[3] Aristotle was the first to make a clear distinction between these physiologoi or physikoi ("physicists", after physis, "nature") who sought natural explanations for phenomena, and the earlier theologoi (theologians), or mythologoi (story tellers and bards) who attributed these phenomena to various gods.[4][5] Diogenes Laërtius divides the physiologoi into two groups: Ionian, led by Anaximander, and the Italiote, led by Pythagoras.[6]
Milesian school
[edit]The Contented I added is in bold
The first pre-Socratic philosophers were from Miletus on the western coast of Anatolia. They lived around the time of the sixth and seventh centuries B.C.[7] Thales (624-546 BC) is reputedly the father of Greek philosophy; he declared water to be the basis of all things.[8] Next came Anaximander (610-546 BC), the first writer on philosophy. He assumed as the first principle an undefined, unlimited substance without qualities (apeiron), out of which the primary opposites, hot and cold, moist and dry, became differentiated.[8] His younger contemporary, Anaximenes (585-525 BC), took for his principle air, conceiving it as modified, by thickening and thinning, into fire, wind, clouds, water, and earth.[8]
Wiki Article Draft-everything I added is in bold font
A number of early Greek philosophers active before and during the time of Socrates are collectively known as the pre-Socratics. Their inquiries spanned the workings of the natural world as well as human society, ethics, and religion, seeking explanations based on natural principles rather than the actions of supernatural gods. They introduced to the West the notion of the world as a kosmos, an ordered arrangement that could be understood via rational inquiry.[9]
Sophists
[edit]The Sophists held that all thought rests solely on the apprehensions of the senses and on subjective impression, and that therefore we have no other standards of action than convention for the individual.[10] Specializing in rhetoric, the Sophists were more professional educators than philosophers. The Sophists traveled extensively educating people throughout Greece. Unlike other philosophical schools, the sophists did not have any common set of philosophical beliefs that connected them to each other. They did however focus on teaching techniques of debate and persuasion which centered around the study of language, semantics and grammar use in order to convince people of certain viewpoints. They also taught students their own interpretations of the social sciences, mathematics, history, among others.[11] They flourished as a result of a special need at that time for Greek education. Prominent Sophists include Protagoras (490-420 BC) from Abdera in Thrace, Gorgias (487-376 BC) from Leontini in Sicily, Hippias (485-415 BC) from Elis in the Peloponnesos, Prodicus (465-390 BC) from the island of Ceos, and Thrasymachus (459-400 BC) from Chalcedon on the Bosphorus.
Wenqi's Feedback
[edit]The additions are comprehensive and accurate. Your language style conforms to Wikipedia conventions. I remember we discussed the deletion issue in class. I think you can keep the sentence because it is a good transition to your additions. In this sentence: "the sophists did not have any common set of philosophical believes", did you mean "beliefs"?
Milesian school
[edit]The first pre-Socratic philosophers were from Miletus on the western coast of Anatolia. They lived around the time of the sixth and seventh centuries B.C.[7] Thales (624-546 BC) is reputedly the father of Greek philosophy; he declared water to be the basis of all things.[8] Next came Anaximander (610-546 BC), the first writer on philosophy. He assumed as the first principle an undefined, unlimited substance without qualities (apeiron), out of which the primary opposites, hot and cold, moist and dry, became differentiated.[8] His younger contemporary, Anaximenes (585-525 BC), took for his principle air, conceiving it as modified, by thickening and thinning, into fire, wind, clouds, water, and earth.[8]
Ephesian school
The Ephesian philosophers were interested in the natural world and the properties by which it is was ordered. Xenophanes and Heraclitus were able to push philosophical inquiry further than the Milesian school by examining the nature of philosophical inquiry itself. In addition, they were also invested in furthering observations and explanations regarding natural and physical process and also the functions and processes of the human subjective experience.[12]
Hereclitus and Xenophenes both shared interests in analyzing philosophical inquiry as they contemplated morality and religious belief. This was because they wanted to figure out the proper methods of understanding human knowledge and the ways humans fit into the world. This was much different than natural philosophy that was being done by other philosophers as it questioned how the operations of the universe as well as the human positions within the universe. [13] Heraclitus of Ephesus is from the western coast of Anatolia in modern Turkey (535-475 BC). He posited that all things in nature are in a state of perpetual flux, connected by logical structure or pattern, which he termed Logos. To Heraclitus, fire, one of the four classical elements, motivates and substantiates this eternal pattern. From fire all things originate, and return to it again in a process of eternal cycles.
The Ephesian philosophers were interested in the natural world and the properties by which it is was ordered. Xenophanes and Heraclitus were able to take push philosophical inquiry further than the Milesian school by examining the nature of philosophical inquiry itself. In addition, they were also invested in furthering observations and explanations regarding natural and physical process and also into the human subjective experience.[14]
Hereclitus and Xenophenes both shared interests in analyzing philosophical inquiry as they contemplated morality and religious belief. This was because they wanted to figure out the proper methods of understanding human knowledge and the ways humans fit into the world. This was much different than natural philosophy that was being done by other philosophers as it questioned how the operations of the universe as well as the human positions within the universe. [15]
Chance Brewer's Feedback
[edit]The organization of the additions are logical, there is a good transitional flow, the additions fit with the rest of the sections. In the "Sophist" section, the word "sophist" should be capitalized.
Wenqi's Feedback
[edit]You did very good job in terms of your additions' content, language, and transition. A couple of minor errors: 1) In the sentence "enophanes and Heraclitus were able to take push philosophical inquiry", did you intend to use "take push" or only"push"? 2) In the sentence "and also into the human subjective experience", I wonder which part in the sentence that "also into" parallels with.
References
[edit]- ^ Graham, Daniel W. (2015), "Heraclitus", in Zalta, Edward N. (ed.), The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Fall 2015 ed.), Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University, retrieved 2019-02-13
- ^ "Presocratic Philosophy", Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, 4 April 2016.
- ^ William Keith Chambers Guthrie, The Presocratic Tradition from Parmenides to Democritus, p. 13, ISBN 0-317-66577-4.
- ^ John Freely, Before Galileo: The Birth of Modern Science in Medieval Europe (2012)
- ^ Most, G. W. (1999). The poetics of early Greek philosophy. In A. A. Long (Ed.), The Cambridge Companion to Early Greek Philosophy (pp. 332–362). chapter, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. http://doi.org/10.1017/CCOL0521441226.016
- ^ Franco Orsucci, Changing Mind: Transitions in Natural and Artificial Environments, p. 14, ISBN 981-238-027-2.
- ^ a b Long, Herbert S (1980). "The Milesian School of Philosophy". Ultimate Reality and Meaning. volume: 3 Issue: 256: 257–259 – via Ebsco Host.
{{cite journal}}:|volume=has extra text (help) - ^ a b c d e f Oskar Seyffert, (1894), Dictionary of Classical Antiquities, page 480
- ^ "Presocratic Philosophy", Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, 4 April 2016.
- ^ Oskar Seyffert, (1894), Dictionary of Classical Antiquities, page 480
- ^ Hornblower, Simon. Sophists. The Oxford Classical Dictionary: Oxford University Press.
- ^ Curd, Patricia (Monday April 4th, 2016). "Presocratic Philosophy". Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Retrieved February 20th 2019.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|access-date=and|date=(help) - ^ Warren, James. The Oracles of Heraclitus. Skocksfield.
- ^ Curd, Patricia (Monday April 4th, 2016). "Presocratic Philosophy". Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Retrieved February 20th 2019.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|access-date=and|date=(help) - ^ Warren, James. The Oracles of Heraclitus. Skocksfield.
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