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Serbin, Texas[edit]

Yes and no....Yes -Serb is the word that we, Lusatian Serbs, use to call ourselves...not Sorb and not Wend. This is why our people gave name to this city Serbin. Germans call all Slavs Wends and us in Lusatia they call Sorabs, no matter that we are Serbs. This is in order to artificially separate us and differentiate us (try to hide our common roots) from our brothers in Balkan who also kept their orthodox name as Serbs. You see, before name SLAVS was introduced in the ninth century, all SLAVS were called Serbs. This is well documented by hundreds of historians in the last 10 centuries, but for your own education on this topic, maybe you should start with Jozef Pavel Shafarik....so we in todays Germany and Balkan Serbs are the only ones who kept our original names, while other Serbs/Slavs mostly took names of the regions they were inhabiting...we could go on about this as long as you want, but the fact is that we are Lusatian Serbs and that we gave this city a name Serbin because of our homeland and ethnicity and not because of Balkan Serbs. Besides, our real name Serbs is accepted in English and internationaly, hence why translate it into sonething else: http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/plw01 The Sorbian word for a Sorb is Serb in both Upper and Lower Sorbian. Serbin therefore means "Sorbian land" in Sorbian. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Serbs, who didn't settle Serbin. The Sorbian immigrants would have had no reason to name their town after an only distantly related ethnic group from a country far away from their home in Lusatia. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 15:10, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Lusatian Serbs" is a contradiction in terms as there are no Serbs in Lusatia (except possibly a few recent immigrants or refugees living in Cottbus). There are Sorbs in Lusatia. While the words "Sorb" and "Serb" may be etymologically cognate with each other, they refer to two entirely different ethnic groups, one West Slavic and one South Slavic. The words for "Sorb" and "Serb" are the same in Sorbian (and perhaps in other languages), but they are not the same in English, and English is the language this Wikipedia is written in. In Sorbian, even though the nouns for "Sorb" and "Serb" are the same, the adjectives for "Sorbian" and "Serbian" are different—serbski and serbiski respectively—showing the Sorbs are well aware of the difference between them and the Serbs. To say that Serbin means "Serbian land" is simply mistaken; it means "Sorbian land". If we were writing in Sorbian we would say that Serbin means "serbska zemja", not "serbiska zemja". And there is no such word as "Sorab" in English. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:34, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, i think i was quite clear on this and yet you seem to drag the story-line that suits you, not the one which is correct..Lets go again: Serbin is the name of the city and not Sorbin and thats because we are LUSATIAN SERBS (and not Sorbs or Wends). You personally might prefer Sorbs or Wends and many more do (foreigners or our descendants in foreign lands), but OUR NAME IS SERBS. We didn't name the city in honor of BALKAN SERBS- but in honor of LUSATIAN SERBS. As i said, the term Lusatian Serbs has been world wide accepted and used, so it is not a question of translating our language into english or something else...Why dont you check Encyclopedia Britanica from 1990. or previous editions (when there was less politics influencing questions related to Serbs (Balkan))? Are we called Lusatian Serbs there? And there is around 60.000 Serbs living in Lusatia now (check how we declared ourselves)- of course Lusatian Serbs, but nevertheless SERBS, not Sorbs and not Wends. Besides all of this, we do have a common roots with Balkan Serbs and it is not a mad coincidence that we carry the same name...There are maps (on english, latin,etc... from 7th,8th and 9th century that show clearly us as SERBS) http://historymedren.about.com/library/atlas/natmapeur814.htm. Our name is still used now as Serbs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miliduch And about Serbiska zemja and Serbska zemja- both are correct for both nations, as the pronunciation depends on dialects...This is rather minor dialect question, and has nothing to do with us being Serbi (Serbs). Hence, as we are Serbi or Srby, english word is Serbs....not Sorbs...and definitely not Wends. Irrelevant to the point of city of Serbin, but relevant to your way of arguing on this topic is this: All Lusatian Serbs consider themselves as one with Balkan Serbs, and so do all Balkan Serbs (i found this at first hand but i can provide serious materials: http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4635670/1/). Of course, thisclaim can be easily checked, but here is just a glimpse for you:

    “Serbia is Our Ancestral Land”-http://de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=5447

Just like in the 1990s, during the civil war in the territory of former Yugoslavia, in recent years too German media supported the decision of their government both when it came to recognizing the mafia state on Serbian territory — its Kosovo and Metohija province — and when it was decided Germany should be the first country in the world to raise their office in Priština to the level of embassy.

Only one political party, the Left (Die Linke), led by two prominent politicians Oskar Lafontaine (former German finance minister and ex chairman of the leading Social Democratic Party) and Gregor Gizi, distanced itself from those decisions. Last year was the first time Die Linke received a significant number of votes also on the territory of the former West Germany, in addition to its popularity in the former East Germany. But although Die Linke represents the opinion of many Germans, the mainstream media in Germany noted their opposition to imposed redrawing of Serbian borders only at the very bottom of newspapers, as a side note. Much greater attention was given to the information that “Lusatian Serbs oppose the secession of Kosovo province from Serbia.”

Later, when Łužica (Lusatian) Serbs (also called “Sorbs” in foreign sources, although they call themselves by the same name as their Balkan brothers — Serbs: Serbja, Serby) organized news conference at which they pointed to the alarming situation for ancient Serbian minority in Germany, many questions followed to which they replied that they consider Serbia their ancestral land, and that they sometimes view their Balkan compatriots as their “wandered-off offspring”.

Jan Nuk, President of the Union of Lusatian Serbs “Domowina” (Domovina, “homeland”), together with the other prominent representatives of the Western Serbs, stressed that Germans should worry about minorities in their own and not in someone else’s territory, adding that currently 60,000 Lusatian Serbs live in Germany (40,000 in Saxony and 20,000 in the neighboring province of Brandenburg). They are surrounded with 6.5 million Germans in those two provinces, and with 82 million Germans in the entire country.

At the same time, he asked how will the Kosovo Serbs, surrounded with Albanians, survive. With this heated issue, Nuk attracted attention of the local media and non-governmental organizations and, in response to numerous questions, explained who, according to the historical data, Lusatian Serbs are.

“We call ourselves Serbja, Serb, Serbonjka, and the Serbs in Serbia – South Serbja”, representative of the Serbian nation in Germany said.

He added that, from their initial settlements, Western Serbs were “forcibly pushed into the space between the Elbe River and the gates of Berlin, between Budyšin [Bautzen] and Kočebuz [Cottbus], formerly marshy and deserted land, which they turned into a fertile region with their hard work.” More here: http://de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=5447--21:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Andrejnigel (talk)


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