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Please do not add references to the Euro200, or any other chart listed at WP:BADCHARTS, to any Wikipedia articles. Thank you.—Kww(talk) 18:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which amateur has decided this?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Apcchart (talkcontribs)

Community decision. If you can show any kind of reliable sources, such as newspapers or trade magazines, that refer to the charts published by APC Charts, showing both how they are compiled and that the rankings on them are used by the media and music industry, that decision would be changed. Feel free to bring any such evidence to WT:Record charts.—Kww(talk) 20:08, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bulgarian_National_Top_40 and Wikipedia_talk:Record_charts/Archive_2#Eurochart_Hot_100_Singles_vs_Euro_200. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I guess the editor is a complete amateur. APC-stats create charts for various radio stations in several European countries. On the website you can see a link to the chart rules. To be sure if the editor does not find the link again: http://www.euro200.net/Rules.htm.

I believe that wikipedia is not really thorough work. When I read the arguments behind 'deleted by discussion', says enough to me. There are 2 people which 'discuss' a chart on a forum and the editor is convinced.

That was because there was few editors interested in that discussion at that time - everyone is a volunteer after all, so there maybe little discussion but almost all deletion discussions are left open for a week or more to give an opportunity to anyone. Typically most delete discussion are longer that the one above; see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Naturoid or Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Fame Ball Tour for some longer examples. There is a deletion reviews process Wikipedia:Deletion_review, and the subject can be brought up in the relevant subject area, being WT:Record charts as suggested by Kww. Or if notability with verifiable sources can be shown then articles can just be created again - articles previously deleted unusual get challenged hence the need to have everything in order. SunCreator (talk) 20:21, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think you've missed the point: the reason that the APCcharts aren't used here is because no one can point to any reliable source that uses them. Show that magazines, newspapers, and similar media talk about the position on APC charts, or that record companies put out press releases talking about their position on APC charts, and the decision will probably change. The APC Charts may be perfectly accurate, but a reliable source has to use them and vouch for them before they can be used on Wikipedia.—Kww(talk) 20:34, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I think I've missed nothing. You told me enough. Wiki's are amateurs. Official charts don't have access to real sales, every professional people from music industry knows that. I guess wiki's don't understand anything about this matter. They cause a lot of damage to the independent producers of charts in the professional music industry. We can't accept this. We have already instructed our lawyers to begin a lawsuit against the responsible behind this wikipedia pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.80.254.208 (talk) 21:16, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit that you made to the page List of record charts has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Please use the sandbox for testing any edits; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing for further information. Thank you. --GnoworTalk2Medid wha? 18:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to List of record charts. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Do not add the Euro200, or any other chart listed at WP:BADCHARTS, to any Wikipedia articles.—Kww(talk) 19:48, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Per this diff.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 00:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]