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This is an automated message from MadmanBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Charles Glaser, and it appears to include material copied directly from http://www.risingpowersinitiative.org/about/affiliated-experts/charles-l-glaser/.

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A tag has been placed on Charles Glaser requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.risingpowersinitiative.org/about/affiliated-experts/charles-l-glaser/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Hello Bcant public affairs,

It seems to me that an article you worked on, Charles Glaser, may be copied from http://www.risingpowersinitiative.org/about/affiliated-experts/charles-l-glaser/. It's entirely possible that I made a mistake, but I wanted to let you know because Wikipedia is strict about copying from other sites.

It's important that you edit the article and rewrite it in your own words, unless you're absolutely certain nothing in it is copied. If you're not sure how to fix the problem or have any questions, there are people at the help desk who are happy to assist you.

Thank you for helping build a free encyclopedia! MadmanBot (talk) 19:32, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not delete. Basic biographical information that is public domain can only be communicated using so many different words. This article has a rightful place on Wikipedia and you diminish it by being unrealistic about what is copyright infringement.

I'm sorry, but none of the sources you cite are in the public domain. Please rewrite the article in your own words, or get permission from the copyright owners of these websites to release the text under an appropriate Creative Commons license. Until then, what you are posting is copyright infringement, as we have no way to verify who you are or what your status is in regards to ownership. I, JethroBT drop me a line 19:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We are the owners, please desist from deleting work that has taken time to do. You are hurting this process by preying on new entries and users rather than fostering growth.

If you are indeed the owners, please e-mail permissions@wikimedia.org providing evidence that you are the copyright owners of this text for this article. This is not guarantee that the article will be kept, but merely that the text is allowable based on permission. Also, it takes absolutely no time to copy-and-paste content, which is largely what you have done. I, JethroBT drop me a line 20:03, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is time in linking sources and learning a new process. Unlike you, we are new to the process. It is frustrating that basic biographical information, which can only be worded so many ways, keeps getting this entry flagged. You could have politely explained e-mailing permissions@wikimedia.org the first time. Your tone is unappreciated and unhelpful.
Look, it's completely true that editing on Wikipedia when you're first getting started isn't easy. I won't argue with that at all. However, copyright violations are extremely serious, and have the potential to create legal issues for the Wikimedia Foundation, the organization that runs the this, the English Wikipedia. It's fine that you didn't know this, but to say it straight, the deletion of your article is less important than the consequences for the project overall. Your work can, however, be very restored by an administrator if you are the copyright holder and agree to relicense your work under an appropriate license for reuse. As I said before though, there are other considerations for whether an article should be kept or not, such as notability. I would recommend finding independent sources that describe the individual in detail to support the notability of the person. The sources used before might be considered unreliable because they are not independent of the subject. I, JethroBT drop me a line 20:45, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A tag has been placed on Charles Glaser requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.risingpowersinitiative.org/about/affiliated-experts/charles-l-glaser/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website or image but have permission from that owner, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I, JethroBT drop me a line 19:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A tag has been placed on Henry R. Nau requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://elliott.gwu.edu/faculty/nau.cfm. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website or image but have permission from that owner, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I, JethroBT drop me a line 20:55, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Status and Advice[edit]

I'm one of the Wikipedia administrators who tends to specialize in articles about academics. The people you are writing about are appropriate subjects for articles, so please let me help you do it right. The advice jetro gave you is quite correct, but perhaps I can be more specific.

There are two reasons to not include material from a web site: .Remember not to copy from a web site, even your own -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM (permission that irrevocably gives everyone in the world the right to copy, reuse, and modify the material) , the tone and the inclusion of material will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. (Thus, there is generally no purpose in giving permission; it is better to rewrite.)

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective students or supporters --that sort of content is considered promotional. For academics in fields where importance comes primarily from books, we list all the books, and include as footnotes links to reviews of them in reliable journalism, but we normally don;t include journal articles or other publications, unless the individual ones are particularly important.

We include major awards at a national level, but not minor ones. We include very high-level government positions, but any statements about their special importance must be supported by third party published sources (for example, with Nau, that he was a "sherpa" needs both a source and an explanation ,and it cannot come from anything published by him or his university. The term is new to me, and I think it will be to most readers.) That he was a advisor is nonspecific--that his advice was of special policy importance similarly needs third party sources. What can come from his official bio at the unviersity is the basic facts about his appointments and education. Publications are best sourced to WorldCat: for reviews, it's enough to give references to them, including the necessary information to find them both in print and online. We don't include adjectives of praise, no matter who said them. We don't start of by saying that someone is a leading scholar: it is up to the reader to make such a judgment, based on the material in the article.

It's true it's hard to give facts without copying some of the material--but fortunately, a bare list of facts is not subject to copyright. The arrangement of them, however , is, and both that and the connecting words should be different.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what you want to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. What we normally do is start with a brief lede paragraph of orientation, then a section of biography, including date and place of birth, and education from high school onwards, and then a career section with sequential list of positions and dates. Major awards and publications usually go in separate sections. It's appropriate to mention his doctoral advisor is the person has an article on WP, and any students of his that already have articles.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity, and for the presence of sources that show notability. The best way of rewriting is to use the WP:Article Wizard, and the Articles for Creation procedure, which will guide you towards an acceptable article if one is possible.

For further information see our general guides to writing articles, WP:PLAIN and WP:FIRST; see also our list of the things we don't do here, WP:NOT, and our practical guide to conflict of interest, WP:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. Please do not enter further articles directly--use the article wizard and the AfC process.

I am going to rewrite the article on Nau. I leave it to you to rewrite the one on Glaser. Please check all other articles for people in your School--a great many of them have been promotional, copyvios, or both. Be absolutely certain that in everything previously written, there is not just no copying , but no Close paraphrase. If there is, rewrite that part from scratch, changing not just the words, but the arrangement into sentences and the sequence of ideas.

The standards for academic biography are at WP:PROF. Should you encounter a reviewer who does not seem to understand them, please just get in touch with me directly on my user talk page. DGG ( talk ) 22:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that is very helpful and makes complete sense. I appreciate the Nau rewrite as an example and will rework the Glaser text before attempting again — this time with Article Wizard.Bcant public affairs (talk) 14:18, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]