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Pretty Little Liars (season 7)

I know you are keeping an eye on that article, and PLL in general. A problem I've been seeing recently is persistent addition of the title for the 16th episode of season 7, mainly by IP editors but I've seen at least one autoconfirmed do this, and either no reference or an invalid/non-reliable one accompanying it. They are contending "A Glove That Rocks the Cradle" is that title, but again not supporting it in the article. The guidelines regarding future episodes is clear; if there is no reliable source for an episode's title, it should not be in there, period. Just wanna give you a heads-up on that, since I've already reverted a few times already concerning this and I'd hate crossing the line with WP:3RR. I have thoughts of requesting semiprotection, but since one autoconfirmed has also done this, it'll be only a partial (as well as temporary) remedy for the problem. MPFitz1968 (talk) 19:48, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

It's my understanding (and I could be wrong) that the WP:3RR rule has guidelines where some types of reverts are not counted towards the 3RR. I'll double check of course but I think if you're reverting an IP edit that has no source it isn't counted, but I could be wrong. I feel like a semi-protection would be beneficial for now to keep this from happening at least until we know for sure what it's called. Brocicle (talk) 03:39, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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The DArkest Knight

Thanks for the revert, I thought that may be the case but the lack of extra capitalization on the page about the episode put me off. Appreciate the correction Bakilas (talk) 06:17, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Move request

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RuPaul's Drag Race Season articles

I wish you had notified me of the discussion about the progress tables and I could have added further explanation. Especially since I was the one who first came to the observation of WP:OR. This decision they came to only reflects Season 9 however because it is the only season they have found Sources for. The rest still need to be sourced, otherwise, they are still Original Research. This is why I reverted the rest of the seasons. Chase | ^talk 01:58, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

I did notify you on your talk page? Brocicle (talk) 02:22, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

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List of The 100 characters

As I've indicated in my edit summaries at List of The 100 characters, character names are not bolded or italicised. Only proper nouns are capitalised. Despite the use in the series, "ice nation", "grounders" etc are not proper nounds and should not be capitalised. For further guidance, please see WP:TVCAST, MOS:BOLD and MOS:CAPS. --AussieLegend (✉) 16:26, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Every other "List of ... character" pages has the character names bolded. Ice Nation and Grounders are names therefore should be capitalised. You don't refer to American's as "american's" or Australian's as "australian's", it's the same thing. Also many articles from reliable sources capiltalise these words [1][2], this should be reflected. Brocicle (talk) 16:37, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

What "every other" list does (and I strongly disagree that it is "every other" list - picking one at random, look at List of Arrow characters) is irrelevant. Our policies and guidelines are clear. WP:TVCAST is clear on how TV cast lists should be formatted. It specifically says "In accordance with the Manual of Style guidance on boldface, actors and roles should not be bolded, nor should they be italicized." "Americans" and "Australians" are proper names used in the real world. "Ice Nation" and "Grounders" are fictional names in the fictional universe. They don't follow the same rules and are not proper names. That reliable sources my capitalise them is irrelevant. Wikipedia has its own set of policies and guidelines. Those are what we follow. --AussieLegend (✉) 16:52, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

With that logic, according to you, places that are fictional should not have capital letters because they aren't real places? That's absolutely ridiculous. I'm sure many authors disagree with that. By your logic every fictional name in a fictional universe should have a lower case letter and not capital. For example, Hogsmede in Harry Potter isn't real, nor is Panem in The Hunger Games. There is no rule that says character names cannot be in bold on stand alone list of character pages, only parent, season and episode articles.

Here's some examples of every other list, specifically ones that I do not and have not contributed to so personal bias is not a question. [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8].

Also picking the Arrow character list is not a random pick, as you regularly contribute to it.Brocicle (talk) 17:20, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Place names are always capitalised. Terms such as "ice nation" are non-geographical descriptors. Again, different rules apply. For the cast listings I refer you again to WP:TVCAST, which provides examples. MOS:TV has been undergoing revisions since August last year, the articles you have identified were all created before those updates and should be corrected. While I contribute to List of Arrow characters, you might note that the changes I make are usually janitorial. Regardless, it does comply with WP:TVCAST. --AussieLegend (✉) 17:37, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

There are no "different rules" Ice Nation refers to the group of people and their land area. Like the Fire Nation in Avatar: the Last Air Bender. But have it your way. Brocicle (talk) 17:41, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

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