User talk:Casemoney

May 2017

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Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Casemoney. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about in the article Arlington Catholic High School, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

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Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Keep in mind this isn't Facebook. This is not the school's page on Wikipedia, it is Wikipedia's independent encyclopedia article about the school. In an encyclopedia, we do not write about a given subject, we write about what is written in reliable, independent sources about the subject. Please follow best practices for COI editors if you find factual inaccuracies. If you want the article to promote the school or be informative for its students or alumni, you are in the wrong place. That belongs on the school's website, not here. John from Idegon (talk) 15:30, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

May 2017

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Arlington Catholic High School. John from Idegon (talk) 15:49, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article you are edit-warring over does not belong to the school. If you do not conform to our conflict of interest policy listed above, your editing privileges will most likely be suspended soon. John from Idegon (talk) 16:01, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Casemoney reported by User:John from Idegon (Result: ). Thank you. John from Idegon (talk) 18:52, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've also nominated the logo you uploaded to Wikipedia Commons for deletion. As it stands right now it is a copyright violation. Notwithstanding that, releasing copyright on the school's logo would be a very bad idea. It can be used on the article, but it needs to be uploaded to English Wikipedia as a fair use exception to copyright. If there is a version that can be downloaded on the website, I'll be happy to do that for you. This is a collaborative project. Not engaging when you are communicated with is not the way to go. I've been doing this for over 5 years and am one of the coordinators of the WikiProject Schools. You've been doing this today. Logically, whom do you think is in a better position to know whether the material you are adding is appropriate? John from Idegon (talk) 19:01, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Casemoney (talk) 19:25, 1 May 2017 (UTC) "Not engaging when you are communicated with it not the way to go"? This double negative honestly has me completely confused. I'm nothing more than a seasonal sport coach who happened upon the Arlington Catholic page and noticed it was incredibly out of date, so I spent some time updating it. If I did it in the wrong way please accept my apologies. Delete whatever you want. I'm done debating this.[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring and violating the three-revert rule, as you did at Arlington Catholic High School. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Casemoney (talk) 11:38, 2 May 2017 (UTC) Just so you know you've removed lots of factual data from the info box and/or replaced it with inaccurate information including:[reply]

Removing the title for Msgr. O'Gorman under founder
The principal is incorrect
The number of faculty is incorrect
The enrollment is incorrect
The school colors are incorrect
The school seal/logo is incorrect
You've removed the tuition entry entirely (which I never added)
You've removed the Dean of Students entry entirely (which I never added)
You've removed the Athletic Director entry entirely (which I never added)
You've removed any mention of the Sisters of St. Joseph in the text (which predated any of my edits)
You've removed notable alum Julia Marino

Thanks for your input

We do not use titles on Wikipedia.
Corrected the principlal.
Faculty # and enrollment # will be updated to the latest from the National Center for Education Statistics soon.
Please make an edit request with a published source on the school's colors. A school publication would suffice, but another source such as the state athletic sanctioning body would be better.
The image for the seal was taken directly from the school's website. The image you uploaded was improperly tagged for license and could be materially damaging to the school, so it has been put up for deletion. Logos have monetary value and the way you licensed the upload would destroy that. Why would anyone (eg, the company that makes the school's branded souvenir athletic gear) pay a license fee to the school when the logo is available for free on Wikipedia? Copyright is very tricky and mishandling it can have serious legal repercussions.
Of what use are several years out of date tuition figures? When you are off block, feel free to make an edit request with a source (for tuition, a school publication is fine) on the article's talk page.
We do not name staff other than the principal. For parochial schools, we will list a chaplin if one is in the staff directory. For any private school, we will also list the founder and the corporate head if there is one and it can be sourced.
I'll take a look at the SSJ piece and work that in. I also did not remove that FYI. Hopefully it is mentioned on the website.
If the Julia you refer to is the snowboarder, all that is needed is a reliable published source that mentions her attendance at the school. Again, feel free to make an edit request with a source once your block is lifted. There is no mention of the school in her Wikipedia bio.

Wikipedia may be the encyclopedia anyone can edit, but there are a lot of things to learn about editing it successfully. If you remember just a couple things, you shouldn't have any more problems. First, if an edit gets reverted, start a discussion, don't just put it back. Second, we do not write about a given subject. Instead we write about what is written about a given subject. What you know, what I know and even what Jimbo Wales knows are all irrelevant here. It's all about what can be sourced. And except for the most mundane things, those sources have to be completely independent of the subject. Thanks and good luck. Hopefully, you'll get the concept and continue contributing. You being blocked was to stop you from changing the article without discussion after others had objected. I'm sure that won't happen again. John from Idegon (talk) 16:12, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Casemoney (talk) 23:26, 2 May 2017 (UTC) It's Julia Marino the skier. I'm pretty sure her Wikipedia page mentions it. Also when I added her to notable alumni I cited a news article that notes her attendance at the school.[reply]

That's doubtful. The skier is from Paraguay, the snowboarder is from New England. And neither person's Wiki bio mentions secondary education at all. Your previous edits have been removed from public view due to the copyright violation, so I cannot check for a citation. If my memory serves, you had cited the school's newspaper, which would not be a reliable source for anything. No high school newspaper is. John from Idegon (talk) 23:59, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2600:1000:B02D:3B8A:7D9C:84C3:F9F4:371D (talk) 04:08, 4 May 2017 (UTC) By the way. The first principal of Arlington Catholic was Sister Melanie, not Monsignor O'Gorman. Independent Source: http://www.wickedlocal.com/x1308448244/Woburn-students-head-the-class-at-Arlington-Catholic-High[reply]

Casemoney (talk) 04:09, 4 May 2017 (UTC) That should read Sister Melania[reply]

Casemoney, you are blocked. Your block will be over in a couple hours. At that point, make separate edit requests for any changes you'd like to see on the article's talk page. When blocked, really the only thing you are allowed to do is discuss your block. Please make make your requests specific, stating exactly what you want changed in the form "change X to Y" with properly formatted references and indicate your request by using the appropriate template as outlined in the instructions for COI editing above. If you are paid for your duties relating to the school's website, the more restrictive WP:PAID restrictions apply to you. Realize that making a request in no way means it is going to be acted on. And there are no deadlines here. The article does not contain a listing of historic principals, so I do not understand your statements above. What does the first principal have to do with the founder? Explain when you make your edit request please. John from Idegon (talk) 07:27, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, your block is over. Please make your requests in proper form at the article's talk page. Nothing you write here will be acted on regarding the article. John from Idegon (talk) 07:34, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem on Arlington Catholic High School

Material you added to the history section appears to have been copied from the copyright web page http://www.achs.net/about-us/tradition-of-excellence.cfm. Copying text directly from a source is a copyright violation. All content you add to Wikipedia must be written in your own words. Please refer to our Copyright policy for further information. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:58, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

63.92.229.25 (talk) 23:22, 2 May 2017 (UTC) I doubt it's a copyright violation considering I wrote the vast majority of the source text on the Arlington Catholic webpage and at least co-wrote/edited the rest.[reply]

I was not aware that conflicts of interest were a thing on Wikipedia, so it might be that, but it's definitely not a copyright violation.

Casemoney (talk) 23:23, 2 May 2017 (UTC) Sorry, I didn't realize I wasn't logged in. The previous message (IP: 63.92.229.25) was me.[reply]

Casemoney, please realize On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog. If you read the link above, it will tell you how to release the content, although if you co-wrote it, you are not the sole copyright holder and if you did it in the employ of the school, they own it, not you, and if as you say, your employment with them is as a part time coach, you certainly would not have the authority to release it. To reiterate, copyright is serious business and will never be treated lightly. John from Idegon (talk) 23:40, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]