User talk:Cryptic

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Please clear speedy deletion message on MXE Entertainment page[edit]

Hello @cryptic. I have been looking through the page MXE Entertainment and it clearly shows no advertisments and has reliable such as the real competitions results for the awards, Notices and News from the MXE Entertainment original websites and some magazines such as Channel Magazine and the Westlake Boys High School website and Westlake Girls website. This shows that this it uses secondary sources from other websites that is not from its own. The person who made this page was not releated to anyone in MXE Entertainment and I thinks this dosnt deserve to be apart of the Speedy deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:29, 9 June 2017‎ (UTC)

Speedy deletion clear for MXE Entertainment page[edit]

@cryptic I have read this wikipedia page and I disagree with remvoving this page because it has secondary sources such as a magazine and also other relevent websites. This page also has alot of reliable sources which explains and shows proof of the information and text of this article and wiki page. There are alot of fans of MXE Entertainment artists and I think they wont be happy with this deletion nomination. This page is fine to be a wiki page but it just needs more editiong. Please remove this deletion nomination from the wiki page MXE Entertainment as MXE Entertainment deserves recognition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pppx1 (talkcontribs) 01:41, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Please read this brief article about the First Law of Holes, to start with. You've dug yourself into quite a deep one.
First order of business - The Wikipedia community is intolerant of people who create lots of accounts and log out to edit as IPs in order to avoid blocks and to look like they're multiple people. Extremely intolerant, and you've gotten to the point where we've been blocking you on sight, and deleting things you've written on sight merely because it was you that wrote them, without even having to debate them on their merits, as I tried to do at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MXE Entertainment. It's possible to come back from sockpuppetry this severe, but only just barely: I've seen it happen maybe twice. There's a guide at WP:SOCKBLOCK, and you'd do well to read that entire page.
As for the article itself: to all appearances, this "company" exists only in the mind of its high-school-age founder, who doubled down by creating a site for it through a predatory website-builder website and falsely claimed his moderately-successful high school choir was "signed" to the company (which I expect would both surprise and dismay the other students, their director, and their school). I've been proven wrong about such things before, it's true; but proof comes in the form of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, and you've yet to provide that - and no, articles that have only passing coverage of the choir and don't even mention either you or this company aren't significant coverage. On the other hand, you've gotten articles about yourself protected from creation at at least three titles so far; there's an amusing, though a bit overly jargon-laden, essay at User:JzG/And the band played on... about what continuing down this path will lead to even if you do someday become notable. —Cryptic 07:06, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
A masterful explanation to someone that wastes everyone's time. Legacypac (talk) 07:15, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Wynyard Group[edit]

Please help me to recreate Wynyard Group page as its a notable company and its wikipedia page must exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James aaron (talkcontribs) 11:55, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

@James aaron: Four thoughts, in no particular order.
  • If you're employed by the company or otherwise being compensated to create the article, you must formally declare that, per our Terms of Use, specifically §4.7, Paid contributions without disclosure. After that, please read our guidelines on editing with a conflict of interest (simplified summary, full guideline).
  • Any article you create is going to have to be completely in your own words, not copied from the company's web page. (Though I do apologize for my mispaste of a different url at the start of my deletion summary.)
    • Even if you happen to have written the text on that webpage, we can't re-use it here without going through all the requirements at WP:DCM, which, in particular, grant everyone in the world a free license to copy and modify it. Hardly any organizations of any size are willing to do this, especially once their legal departments get wind of the idea.
  • You'll have to show that the company meets our inclusion criteria (full version, simplified (but non-specific) summary). In particular, reprints of the company's press releases and links to searches for them are of no use.
  • I suggest submitting the article through the Articles for Creation system rather than attempting to create it directly in mainspace. —Cryptic 12:13, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I will follow the same. Will contact you if need your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James aaron (talkcontribs) 13:03, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Earl E. Smith[edit]

Hi Cryptic, I am trying to do a page for myself being the only computer literate punk rocker in the crew, I am just KINDA getting the hang of wikipedia. You took down a page I tried to create cuz I blanked it. I figure I'll try harder tomorrow with better references, I was being lazy and didn't really list too much. I will try to adhere to wikipedia's standards better next go around. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earl E. Smith (talkcontribs) 08:51, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

@Earl E. Smith: You should really read our guideline at WP:Autobiography, and at least skim our inclusion criteria at WP:Notability (music). I don't edit musicians' articles much, but it looks like you probably do meet our criteria; any article you write should make that clear. In any case, I strongly, strongly recommend you create the article through the WP:Articles for creation process rather than directly in mainspace. —Cryptic 09:03, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Cryptic! I will try it then when I do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earl E. Smith (talkcontribs) 19:37, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Wynyard Group Page[edit]


Could you please tell what all changes need to be done in this page? Accordingly we will modify it so that can make it live soon.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by James aaron (talkcontribs) 12:32, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

(moved to User talk:James aaron, since I included a formal warning. —Cryptic 10:50, 23 June 2017 (UTC))

Lil Pump[edit]

Hello Cryptic, I am trying to create a wiki page for the song artist, Lil Pump. I do not know everything that there is to know, but I feel that I know enough to at least get the page going. I know his birth name, Gazzy Garcia, his birthday, August 17, 2000, and some of his background. And hopefully we could avoid any possible deletion again. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrapperOfTheCentury (talkcontribs) 14:27, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

@TrapperOfTheCentury: Work on the draft at Draft:Lil Pump. You're going to have to provide evidence that he meets our inclusion criteria (full guideline, simplified summary). And take a look at this cautionary tale; this person is already four or five steps along that path, which is why you can no longer create an article for him directly in the main namespace. —Cryptic 14:57, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

B4 clarification[edit]

A clarification to WP:UP/RFC2016 § B4 has been proposed. You participated in that discussion; your input is welcome at Wikipedia:User pages/RfC for stale drafts policy restructuring/B4 clarification. Thanks, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 15:45, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Some irritating canvassing, without even the courtesy of a proper section header[edit]

FYI [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legacypac (talkcontribs) 19:36, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Lil Pump - Not the same request as above[edit]

Sorry for bypassing you initially . Wasn’t aware that I needed to ask you first but I obviously read the instructions wrong. I filed a request to have the page Lil Pump unprotected so I could move a draft I created. I know that someone else had created a different draft and also see they made the same request above. I believe the concern on that draft is notability. Subject does meet WP:NMUSIC as there are reliable sources and charted songs. I think the only concern there in my opinion would be the page turning into WP:FANCRUFT or promotional. I will keep the page on my watchlist so that I can help keep that from happening. I would actually prefer to unprotect and move the draft I created, not the draft referenced by the user in the section above, as it is cleaner and uses reliable sources while showing the charted songs that establish the notability. Can you review my request here and let me know? Thanks.--DoubleuWW (talk) 00:15, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Replied at RFPP. —Cryptic 20:28, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but this is getting frustrating for me so hopefully you can steer me in the right direction. I have created numerous pages for notable artists but this one I cannot because of others who have tried to spam Wikipedia. At your suggestion, I submitted to articles for creation and it still has not been reviewed. Since that time, I see the creation of a an Italian Wikipedia page for the artist ( and more significant coverage of the subject continues to come up every day. It's now my personal goal to get this live as I feel like I am being lumped into a group of bad editors when I am actually a good contributor to the site. If you can please unlock the page so I can move it the main space I would appreciate it. If others feel that it is not notable, they can go through the normal articles for deletion process, although I doubt that will be an issue as the artist is notable. Sorry to vent, I am just feeling frustrated with the whole process. --DoubleuWW (talk) 04:32, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm really not qualified to assess articles about musicians, unless they're as bad as the ones that originally got the title protected. The last thing I want to do is move it into mainspace just to have it get deleted again by someone who knows what they're doing in this subject area. Draft:Lil Pump (2) is objectively better than the submitted and resubmitted and reresubmitted version at Draft:Lil Pump, though. @Robert McClenon: I don't suppose you'd be willing to take a look at it again on that basis? —Cryptic 18:11, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Deletion review for Nestaway[edit]

This is a request to review Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nestaway since the organization should now meet the notability criteria for WP:ORG and WP:ORGDEPTH with recent in-depth news links in independent articles. There are bylined news articles written by staff writers and not only press releases. The references that do meet the guidelines as per my understanding are mentioned below:

Kindly review all the references thoroughly because most of them are not mere announcements or press releases, they are about the brand. RajkGuj (talk) 16:36, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Some of these were in the article; some were discussed in its afd. Having a byline by a staff writer (and no, I didn't need the patronizing links to our articles on those concepts) is not evidence of reliability or effective editorial oversight - the first three articles you list substantially reproduce the same press release. The remainder are either passing mentions or routine coverage of the startup as a startup, which don't meet WP:CORPDEPTH. So I think the G4 deletion of your article at NestAway was valid. WP:Deletion review is, as you seem aware, your avenue of appeal. —Cryptic 14:16, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to Admin confidence survey[edit]


Beginning in September 2017, the Wikimedia Foundation Anti-harassment tool team will be conducting a survey to gauge how well tools, training, and information exists to assist English Wikipedia administrators in recognizing and mitigating things like sockpuppetry, vandalism, and harassment.

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Hi Cryptic, thank you for your questions and comments at my RfA. Cheers, ansh666 22:39, 22 September 2017 (UTC)