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  • Hello!! I am Cyberpower678. I am your typical run of the mill user here on Wikipedia.
  • I specialize in bot work and tools, but I lurk around RfPP, AfD, AIV, and AN/I, as well as RfA. If you have any questions in those areas, please feel free to ask. :-)
  • I also serve as a mailing list moderator and account creator over at the Account Creation Center. If you have any questions regarding an account I created for you, or the process itself, feel free to email the WP:ACC team or me personally.
  • At current I have helped to create accounts for 1932 different users.
  • Disputes or discussions that appear to have ended or is disputed will be archived.

All the best.—cyberpower

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Revision history statistics[edit]

Can you explain what's happend to the information that was available under this link on the history pages? It was working a couple of days ago without any strange redirects that also don't work. It's been a while now since these tools were created and/or relocated to labs and it's high time these disruptions were addressed once and for all by a stable team of users who are available to maintain what they have been responsible for. Most of you appear to have either retired or lost interest.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:52, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I have not lost interest, nor have I retired, or anyone else on the team. We all have RL issues going on. But you're right, we are currently discussing recruiting more active members to xTools. As for what happened to the tools, we suspect the roots made a change to labs which broke the tools. There are a lot of changes happening there right now. You are free to use my supercount in the meantime, which was created by me and still seems to work.—cyberpowerChat:Online 12:15, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
You are side-stepping the issue again. Members of your 'team' have indeed retired. I am nit talking about the edit counters this time, I'm taliking about the page history editin statstool - gone forever. How are we supposed to do research without such a valuable tool? Forgive me, but I would like to know once and for all what's going on or been going on since tools were migrated to labs and why nobody will take responsibility for it. It's probably time to escalate these issues now into a full-blown major RfC. Perhaps that will get somthing done. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:20, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
The only one that is seemingly inactive is User:Nakon. All of us are still active. Nothing is working because labs is constantly changing, and expecting the users to adapt to it. We have just recruited a new member to the team, who has set some pretty aggressive goals. We are looking to recruit more people, but labs is once again broken, so we can't advertise that we would like to recruit new members. Nothing is gone forever, and in case you haven't noticed, we've been able to keep xTools stable for many months now. Excuse the blunt language, but I'm quite honestly not very appreciative of the fact the that you think we are at the community's whim 24/7. We are volunteers and have lives, like the rest of the team. T13 is studying, so am I, MusikAnimal and Nakon work. I'm pretty sure you have a life too. You're lack of appreciation for the work we put into the tools is such a turnoff for me to the degree that I'd rather just not do anything at all. :-(
If you want to know once and for all, the labs environment is less stable than toolserver once was, and is constantly being changed, and restrictive are being enforced, which is forcing maintainers to constantly look after their tools. We want to move it to our own maintained environment at, where we can control our own quotas and restrictions and build the environment that isn't ever changing. Once we do that xTools should have a permanent stability.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 21:19, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
It's not me you should be telling all this, it's the WMF. IMO these tools are so important they shouldn't be maintained by volunteers at all. Setting up your own environment is one thing, the Germans did just that only to have it snatched away by the Foundation. As for your 'team', I'm sorry but the big black RETIRED banners must be a figment of my imagination. Please understand however, that the only reason I keep targeting you personally is because your name is on these tools as their creator/handler and there is no one else to go to. Purely ironically, probably rhe best way to get anything done would indeed be for you to go on strike. Whatever, something has to be done by somebody very soon; the tools were never ever in such a mess before the WMF decided to go for grabs. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:03, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
The WMF has said nothing about taking them over, nor would I let it happen. The WMF devs have a repeated history of going against consensus. Our own environment is still on labs but a different part of labs that xTools team will maintain instead of the labs staff. It will still suffer downtime labs has another catastrophic failure but will be immune to essentially the remaining instabilities the present in toollabs. As for the retired banner, can you please point to the user in question. At last check, which was yesterday, I was still communicating with everyone but Nakon.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 23:18, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Well, yes, I certainly do agree that the WMF is the least qualified, but what else have we got? Who can pressure whom into doing something ? Your team: User:Technical 13 is semi retired and is under a temporary injunction. the last thing he has on his mind right now is programming scripts and there is a very real possibilty that his editing restrictions are going to be permanent. User:TParis (admin) is retired , forced out by the very kind of nastiness that sometimes even makes me want to chuck Wikipedia in the corner for good. Fortunately I am 'retired' in RL and am still stupid enough to plod along with Wikipedia intead of relaxing by my pool with my grandchildren in my tropical paradise. At the end of the day, we are all volunteers, some of us make the tools we need, some of us are the ones who use the tools we need. Coming from a pre-IT generation, I don't pretend to even begin to understand about separate environments at Labs or where these tools are hosted - all I want is for them to work. If it seems to you that I am the only one complaining, please think again: others don't bother or badger you too much because they see me doing it for them. Don't keep taking it too personally though, but everyone is circling their waggons. If you've bit off more than you can chew with these scripts, and everyone understands that you can't possibly go it alone, then please start a major RfC with Watchlist top-notice to get a proper team together - I'll give you all the support you need, I'm pretty good at winning RfCs. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:23, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Well, TParis has been long removed as maintainer per his own request, before he retired. As for you spending time on Wikipedia, rather than with your grandchildren in a tropical paradise, I really question your logic. :p
It wasn't a matter of me biting off more than I could chew, but when Hedonil completely rewrote everything and then left, I was left with code that I no longer was familiar with, which is why they are going to be rewritten again. The code isn't maintainable. T13, MusikAnimal, and I are scratching our heads over the existing code Hedonil left us. T13 may be under a temporary injunction, but I still consider him a trusted developer, he is still allowed to edit xTools. We've recruited a new user, and just now got another volunteer request on Wikitech. We want to place a notice on xTools to ask for volunteers to join xTools. So I'm going to hold off on the RfC for now. I don't want an overwhelming insurgence of volunteer requests. Give me a few hours to decide about the RfC. I would like to discuss it with the others.—cyberpowerChat:Online 12:28, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
I have thought this over and while we are getting recruit requests, I would like to start an RfC.—cyberpowerChat:Online 13:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

So, per Wikipedia:xTools, the current maintainers of xTools are: Cyberpower678 and MusikAnimal. Hedonil, who seems to be listed as the primary author of all eight XTools, including the current, widely popular version of X! Edit Counter, for which they received several barnstars, has not edited since 20 August 2014. With only 82 edits to English Wikipedia, their edits per barnstar ratio is off the charts. Despite their unexplained disappearance shortly after blessing us with this superior code, Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters still says that "X!'s Edit Counter [is] now maintained by Hedonil on Labs." But since none of you guys seem to be able to understand how Hedonil's code works, you want to go back to your "supercount", or create yet another new counter from scratch? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง does have a way of dragging the essence of the issues out. Is User:X!, who these tools are named for, able to help, even if only to bootstrap the tools back into production? I see that the code, at is in PHP – maybe I'll play with it to see it I can get it running on my machine. That would separate the labs setup from the picture, so whether issues are caused by labs or the script could be sorted out.

Why is the link hanging right now? Are there lingering issues with the switch to forced HTTPS? Wbm1058 (talk) 15:37, 21 June 2015 (UTC) doesn't hang; is it just the xtools section of labs that is offline now? Wbm1058 (talk) 15:45, 21 June 2015 (UTC) is also non-responsive.
What is ? Wbm1058 (talk) 15:55, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
So here's the deal, I recruited Hedonil to help maintain xTools, who instead rewrote everything, and left in the middle of it. I'm the only maintainer that hasn't faded off of the list of active maintainers. Active maintainers include me, MusikAnimal, and T13, and now Elee. The pages are all out of date, however the code was rewritten to an extent that I would have to sit down and dedicate several hours of my time trying to figure out what does what. With that being said we are certain that the toollabs' move to Ubuntu trusty is responsible for the breakage.—cyberpowerChat:Online 16:07, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
I see: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. What was the OS before that? Wbm1058 (talk) 16:45, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Ubuntu precise.—cyberpowerChat:Online 17:01, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
We have reason to believe that this is the culprit.—cyberpowerChat:Online 17:03, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
What version of PHP are you running, and if that's also been upgraded recently, which version was running before the break? Wbm1058 (talk) 17:33, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Was running 5.3, now running 5.5.—cyberpowerChat:Online 17:37, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Why do you suspect deprecated features in PHP 5.3? Wouldn't that only be a concern if you were migrating from PHP 5.2.x to PHP 5.3.x
See Migrating from PHP 5.3.x to PHP 5.4.x and Migrating from PHP 5.4.x to PHP 5.5.x Wbm1058 (talk) 18:00, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Covering our basis. I fear ultimately that the guts need to be rewritten again. Hedonil did use older functions rather than the newer ones, so it seems. I used newer ones when developing supercount and, as you can see, it needs virtually 0 maintenance to stay up. xTools is constantly blowing up somewhere.—cyberpowerChat:Online 18:26, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
The obvious short-term fix is to back off to the last version of PHP under which this was consistently running, until the new problems are addressed. Wbm1058 (talk) 18:54, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Now that's weird. I just restarted everything in xtools. Looks like the edit counter works. Articleinfo doesn't still.—cyberpowerChat:Online 16:07, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
    • Since you restarted it, stopped hanging, and now gives a "301 Moved Permanently This tool has moved to a new location. You will be redirected to shortly." message – Wbm1058 (talk) 18:37, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
    • Oh, my. Now it's hanging again. This seems like configuration issues, not PHP issues. Wbm1058 (talk) 18:49, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
      It's not hanging for me. You seem to be very interested. Our capable of configuring Linux servers and/or working with PHP? If the answer is yes, would you consider joining xTools?—cyberpowerChat:Online 19:22, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
      Yes, I'm willing to join xTools, though my plate of things to do on Wikipedia is already pretty full. I'm willing to help where I can. But mostly we may just need to know where to ask for help, and what questions to ask. is working for me again, but now, after a several-second pause, it redirects to - that's not right. Do you know how to fix that? Tell me what I need to do to join, and feel free to email if you like. Wbm1058 (talk) 22:06, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
      Actually, it's been doing that. We set it up that way as a temporary measure to prevent excessive load, until we can setup our own environment. Send me an email, and I'll get to you tomorrow.—cyberpowerChat:Online 01:26, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
      I tried sending you an email, but suspect that due to phab:T66795, you never received it? Could you initiate email from your end? Once I receive email from you, I believe I should be able to reply directly, without having to go through special:email. I guess if you're on Yahoo! too, we'll need to find a "plan B". Wbm1058 (talk) 17:57, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

xtools is not happy[edit]

at the time of this writing. Please see your wikitech talk page. E. Lee (talk) 10:20, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

acknowledged and aware of the situation.—cyberpowerChat:Online 12:16, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
sounds good. if you need extra devs feel free to call out for me. E. Lee (talk) 12:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
We do. Please send me an email.—cyberpowerChat:Online 13:02, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
All set. E. Lee (talk) 13:04, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi! xtools seems to be unresponsive; it loads for a while then fails with HTTP 502 Bad Gateway. —Pathoschild 15:08, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

xTools broke, and even more so after the catastrophic failure on labs. The massive labs outage doesn't really help either.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 15:14, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

hi I know your busy, but do you have any idea when revision history statistics "link" might be up? (BTW thank you for your help as always)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 18:32, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

We do not know yet. Sorry. :/—cyberpowerChat:Online 19:20, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

any closer to being up, maybe the week end(I want you to know how much I appreciate your work)?


--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 19:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)


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I thought I already fixed mine.—cyberpowerChat:Online 19:14, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Could be, or you might be using a script by someone else that triggered this. I believe that the target list for this message was generated based on warnings in the logs from 06 to 12 June. There should be more information at phab:T96858.
By the way, can you tell me what article you tried VisualEditor in, and what browser and OS you're using? I'd be happy to file a bug report. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:09, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Internet Explorer. That's all I remember.—cyberpowerChat:Online 19:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
So must be Windows. Do you remember when this happened? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 00:37, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Just prior to me opposing. I went to a random article to test VE, and give my opinion, the editor froze Internet Explorer momentarily, and then half the article was gone. Windows was still responsive.—cyberpowerChat:Online 00:41, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. It looks like that would have been a little while after the most recent update. I'll find someone with IE (version?) to check it out. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 05:15, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Can't be reproduced in IE11. Was that the version you were trying? Would you might trying it again for me? should take you there without any bother about opting in. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:39, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Maybe it was a glitch, that just happened to have happened on my first try. I can't seem to reproduce it either, no matter what I do, but IE does get really slow for me, so I just today moved on to Chrome.—cyberpowerChat:Online 00:09, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
  • I got emails from Whatamidoing (WMF) sent to both of my bot accounts, as well as my personal account. I know the issue for certain with my bot accounts, because they only edit using their PHP scripts. My personal account is a bit more uncertain, but since I don't run bots on my personal account, I know it's not them. Likely it's my AWB, Hotcat or Popups editing that triggered the email to my personal account. BTW, my bots run on Windows 7, so are unaffected by the latest of Labs' many crises. I updated my botclasses library to report warnings to my console, so now I'm seeing the warnings. Next step is to fix it to make them go away. Will get to that soon. Wbm1058 (talk) 19:40, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

RFPP clerking[edit]

Hi Cyberpower678. How does the bot doing the archiving at WP:RFPP decide when to run and what to archive? The board is getting a bit long... --NeilN talk to me 13:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

There's a massive outage on labs. All bots are dead at the moment.—cyberpowerChat:Online 13:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
It wasn't me! Thanks for the info. --NeilN talk to me 13:50, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm entirely blaming Cyberbot I for this though, this isn't the first time it'll have gone rogue. tutterMouse (talk) 15:11, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
It's not Cyberbot's fault this time, but I can totally see Cyberbot setting the Labs infrastructure on fire out of anger for this. :p—cyberpowerChat:Online 15:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
You can't say it's not Cyberbot's fault with absolute certainty, could be spreading that rogue AI code around the other bots like sleeper agents or something. You don't know but I might, keep safe out there. *recedes into shadows* tutterMouse (talk) 15:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
I can say with absolute certainty because Cyberbot has no desire to terminate itself. So why would it want to collapse the NFS? Cyberbot resides on it. :p—cyberpowerChat:Online 15:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Can "manual" archiving be done at WP:RFPP, or is that not allowed there?... --IJBall (contribstalk) 19:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
As long as you follow correct protocol. The main problem with the bot right now is that Labs has suffered a catastrophic failure in the file system resulting in data loss and that I will need to restore the bots before restarting them.—cyberpowerChat:Online 20:07, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Argh! OneClickArchiver won't work on RFPP. So I'm out of ideas anyway... --IJBall (contribstalk) 20:26, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Yea, it's done a little differently. :-)—cyberpowerChat:Online 20:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Bot services restored.—cyberpowerChat:Online 12:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi User:Cyberpower678 i'm User:MarkHerson and i,m sorry to my mistakes to adding (pp-pc1) tags.. I need your help. My reason is.. To protect the Article pages of Monika Santa Maria she is one of the contestsnat winning first runner up in the Asia's Next Top Model (cycle 3). The evidence is Monika Santa Maria is including to Top Model Contestants. And with other references thank you for cooperation. E-mail me.MarkHerson (talk) 08:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

You will need to request protection on WP:RFPP simply adding a protection template will not do it.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 01:19, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Question (about Cyberbot II)[edit]

Hello Cyberpower678! I have a question for you! So, it seems that one of Cyberbot II's duties is to add and remove {{pp-pc1}} tags from articles. But it seems Cyberbot II does not handle regular {{pp}} (i.e. semi-protection) tags – is that correct? If so, is there another bot that handles maintaining {{pp}} tags (esp. adding them to articles), and if so which one is it?... (I'm asking because a bunch of Muppets articles were just semi'ed, but it looks like no {{pp}} tags have been added to those, so I was wondering if there was a bot in charge of that, and if so if that bot might be "down" right now...) Thanks in advance! --IJBall (contribstalk) 16:44, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

I believe User:Lowercase sigmabot does that.—cyberpowerChat:Online 18:28, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I'll try to follow up on User talk:Σ. --IJBall (contribstalk) 19:40, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Move-protection and semi-protection differenciation needed[edit]

CyberBot I could not differenciate between move-protection and semi-protection. Here is the issue after nominating Map for move-protection. CyberBot I should reply "It appears that the article is currently (insert the types of protection). Please confirm." and be specific on what type of protection the bot sees. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 06:57, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

There is move protection on there though.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 11:23, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Oh yes, I understand. But I just hope that what the bot reports as "One or more pages in this request appear to already be protected. The article (article1) has been protected with (article1's protections). Please confirm". Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 00:56, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia book reports[edit]

Hi! I edit Wikipedia books and I have noticed that Cyberbot I isn't updating the book reports anymore. The book reports can be found on the talk pages of the books. They're usually updated around every three days, but it has been a week since I've expanded this book here and its book report still hasn't been updated to show all the articles I added. Do you know why this is? Daveman16 (talk) 14:54, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

This suggests it's crashing consistently.—cyberpowerChat:Online 15:11, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
It was suffering from three issues, forced HTTPS, deprecated functions within the code, and a misplaced assert. Fixed all three, and started up a run.—cyberpowerChat:Online 15:47, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Cyberbot II's tagging with {{pp-pc1}}[edit]

Hello! Please have a look at this edit, there's obviously something wrong with the bot as the Programming language article has been already tagged with {{pp-pc1}}. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 15:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I've blocked it while this gets sorted out. DrKiernan (talk) 15:51, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 15:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Wouldn't it be better to just disable the associated task listed on the bot's userpage? Dustin (talk) 15:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict × 4)Or you could just use the runpage. You're now blocking the bot from doing other tasks, including the one I was in the middle of testing right now. You don't need to be trigger happy about it. It occasionally happens as the bot needs to screen scrape and use the API to obtain this kind of information. Sometimes the 2 mixed together produces a bad result.The bot has clearly received bad data, but I do plan on improving this. So can you please unblock my bot now, and disable the PCbot task instead?—cyberpowerChat:Online 15:55, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Done. DrKiernan (talk) 16:08, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

The bot is tagging articles already tagged. SLBedit (talk) 17:32, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

We found out about that over an hour ago, and Cyberbot II has not edited since. Dustin (talk) 17:34, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, good, so it's not just me. (Another, minor issue, is that Cyberbot II has taken to adding the (often redundant) {{pp-pc1}} tags at the bottom of the page, rather than at the top, where most of us prefer it be (I think)...) --IJBall (contribstalk) 18:35, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Who is willing to remove all duplicate tags? :) SLBedit (talk) 16:46, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Cyberbot II will clean it up, once I have the new code developed and deployed.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 17:31, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Fixed and rewritten. Cyberbot II should be more careful from now on.—cyberpowerChat:Online 20:04, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, one last thing: if the PC has no fixed expiry (i.e. it's indefinite), like this one, please set |expiry=indef otherwise the page gets put in Category:Wikipedia protected pages without expiry. I fixed that one. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:40, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
The template explicitly says not to do that.—cyberpowerChat:Online 20:42, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
I queried that; and the instruction has been removed by Mr. Stradivarius (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 (talk) 10:59, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
I removed it because the template itself doesn't require it - if it's needed for the bot, though, I'm happy with putting it back in. I have no particular preference for what behaviour the |expiry= parameter should have. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:24, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Just a curious question though. Isn't an indefinitely protected page technically a page without expiry and therefore appropriate to placed in Category:Wikipedia protected pages without expiry?—cyberpowerChat:Online 12:11, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
@Mr. Stradivarius: Documentation should reflect the behaviour of the template. If the template doc was warning against some practice that had caused a problem at some point, but circumstances have changed such that the problem can no longer be caused by the practice that was being warned against, the warning is no longer necessary.
@Cyberpower678: It's an error category. It means that the prot or pc template has no |expiry= parameter, not that the page is protected indefinitely. Consider e.g. Anarchist communism - this is semi-protected until 13:54, 20 July 2015 (UTC). It has a {{pp-sock}} at the top, with one parameter - |small=yes. This template puts the page in both Category:Wikipedia pages semi-protected from banned users and Category:Wikipedia protected pages without expiry. If I were to add |expiry=13:54, 20 July 2015 to the template, it then appears only in Category:Wikipedia pages semi-protected from banned users. Similarly, Arabic language is under PC until 12:06, 18 September 2015 (UTC). It has a {{pp-pc1}} at the top without parameters, and this template puts the page in both Category:Wikipedia pending changes protected pages (level 1) and Category:Wikipedia protected pages without expiry. If I add |expiry=12:06, 18 September 2015, it then appears only in Category:Wikipedia pending changes protected pages (level 1). --Redrose64 (talk) 13:04, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
That would require Cyberbot to plow all the articles. Couldn't @Mr. Stradivarious: make the omission an implied indefinite and remove it from the category?

Cyberbot II blacklisted links talk page notification duplicated many times[edit]

See [1]. It's also repeatedly trying to save blacklisted links to Elena Sheynina and Belfast Harbour -- see here. MER-C 08:37, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I do not have access to the spam log. Perhaps you would like to nominate me for adminship? ;-) As for repeated talk page notices, I'll look into why it's doing that.—cyberpowerChat:Online 13:51, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I've attempted the fix to fix the repeated talk page notifications, however, I need access to the list to know why the bot is hitting that.—cyberpowerChat:Online 14:15, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Forgot about that, sorry. I'll paste the first few entries here (times are UTC+8) below. This happens every two hours or so and started on 1 April, though the problem goes back at least one year. MER-C 11:45, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Cyberbot I not updating RFA tally[edit]

It appears that Cyberbot I has stopped performing the RfXTallyBot task; it has not updated User:Cyberpower678/Tally in over a day now. Inks.LWC (talk) 03:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

It's also not updating subpages of {{adminstats}}. Both problems may be a consequence of the bot being blocked and unblocked on 22 June 2015. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
It's not a simple fix this time. This problem goes all the way to the framework, according to the stack traces.—cyberpowerChat:Online 12:30, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Updated the framework, and bot is running again.—cyberpowerChat:Online 13:13, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Afd Messages[edit]

To User:Cyberpower678 sorry for my mistakes again if the issue messages its not complete :). MarkHerson (talk) 04:46, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

???—cyberpowerChat:Online 13:13, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Bot request[edit]

Do you have time to take a look at this request ? –xenotalk 20:08, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Adding then moving the same tag[edit]

Dear Cyberpower678,

With this edit, you added a {{pp-pc1}} tag to the Peter Hitchens article. A few yours later you moved it. You have done the same with other articles. This is fairly harmless, but does waste the time of reviewers. Maproom (talk) 21:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

It was Cyberbot cleaning up it's mess. It's a one time thing only. Though I don't see why it should waste anyone's time. Cyberbot has reviewer rights which means its edits are automatically accepted.—cyberpowerChat:Online 21:27, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Ok, my mistake. I thought I was offered an "accept edit" button. Maproom (talk) 21:39, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't let my bot edit 1000+ pages if everybody had to go after it and click accept. :p—cyberpowerChat:Online 21:43, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
@Maproom: All edits to pages under PC get a pair of buttons Accept revision and Unaccept revision - if the edit has already been accepted (whether automatically or not) the first button is greyed out and the legend in the box border shows "Re-review this revision". --Redrose64 (talk) 22:46, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Edit counter question[edit]

Hello again Cyberpower678! So I have a question: if your new User analysis tool is meant as the "replacement" for your previous X! edit counter, then why is the bottom of every Special:Contributions page still linking to the old X! edit counter rather than the new User analysis tool? Are those links likely to be update to point to the latter at some point in the near future?... Just curious. Thanks in advance! --IJBall (contribstalk) 23:39, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

It used to link to supercount, when xTools was more broken than it is now. It's been linked back ever since Hedonil worked on it. Take note, that it no longer says replacement, and it hasn't for a while.—cyberpowerChat:Online 00:11, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
So, who do we need to talk to to get it that linked back to Supercount, as it seems more reliable than xTools?... Face-wink.svg --IJBall (contribstalk) 02:13, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm flattered. I'm the sole maintainer. :p The edit counter for xTools, seems to be operational for the time being. I wouldn't recommend relinking anything yet.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 02:27, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Cyberbot II[edit]

Hi Cyberpower678. I just wanted to alert you to this edit by Cyberbot II at Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs where in tagging the page with a {{pp-pc1}} tag, the bot also removed all the content of the page (except the tag). Cheers. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:27, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

It looks like a bad API response was returned to the bot for that page. It looks like a one time occurance, if it happens again, let me know.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 02:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Page histories[edit]

Hi Cyberpower, is there any news about when page histories will be available again? This is a really major loss. Pinging Coren as I don't know whether it's a labs issue or something else. Sarah (talk) 00:12, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I checked an article on the German Wikipedia, and they have access to page histories via Wikimedia Labs. See Jimmy Somerville for example. Can we use whatever they do? Sarah (talk) 00:17, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
We are working on transferring xTools to a new environment. We managed to get the environment set up, however we need to rewrite some of the file paths and get it moved and tested. The new location will be https://xtools.wmflabs.orgcyberpowerChat:Online 00:19, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, cyberpower. Do you have a timetable for this? It's a tool that we use a lot, and since it moved from the German toolserver, there have been lots of outages. Also, it's quite hard to read compared to the old version. Is there a way that you could use the German version? Pinging APPER in case he can advise. Also Kudpung who expressed concern earlier. Sarah (talk) 02:12, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
German version? We hope to have it moved within a week. We then plan to rewrite one tool at a time. As for Kidding, I left him a message stating that I'd be interested in an RfC to recruit more people, but I haven't heard back from him.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 02:23, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
The German version can be seen at Jimmy Somerville (I posted this above). It's very easy to read. Sarah (talk) 02:46, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
  • That's an extremely acute observation made by SlimVirgin. The German one is, well, typical of all things German: crisp, clear, pragmatic, and highly functional (I know, I'm biased). So, yeah, why can't we use it? Why do we have to keep reinventing the wheel when someone has already got one that turns? Is it something to do with egoism? Or is it just sheer masochistic ? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:20, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
    Use it by all means. I didn't know it existed. It certainly lifts the pressure off of me of trying to get these tools back online.—cyberpowerChat:Online 12:06, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
It only works for pages on de: - SlimVirgin's example above is for the article de:Jimmy Somerville. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
In that case the pressure is still on. I'll see how fast I can get it back up. Kudpung, I'd like your assistance in starting an RfC to recruit more people.—cyberpowerChat:Online 13:20, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Cyberpower, my question is whether we can have the German version on the English Wikipedia, because it seems to be stable, and it is much easier to read that the X tools version. Do you know how that could be achieved? Also pinging Kudpung and Redrose64. Sarah (talk) 20:18, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
The German Wikipedia uses MediaWiki software. Of course it will work here. One just needs to find out who maintains it and get the code and port it to en,Wiki.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:27, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
If I can get the code, I can port it.—cyberpowerChat:Online 20:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
If I've understood correctly, it was written by APPER. Sarah (talk) 20:29, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
The code appears to be closed source. No read access to the tool and no repo info I can find.—cyberpowerChat:Online 20:31, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
If we can't port it, we can model the new xTools after it when we rewrite.
(edit conflict) Yes, here. If any help needed with the German, or communication with APPER,I'm fluent. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:34, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
You're fluent German? I didn't know that. I speak German too.—cyberpowerChat:Online 20:36, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
I thought Wikimedia Labs only allows open source. I've left notes for APPER in case he can help. Sarah (talk) 20:39, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Also see de:Benutzer:APPER/WikiHistory. Sarah (talk) 20:40, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
I left him a message in German.—cyberpowerChat:Online 20:43, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
I've left APPER a message in German on his tp. I believe that is now the 3rd scream for help he's got from us.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:58, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
The 4th. Elee has also asked him. Sarah (talk) 21:02, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi. WikiHistory contains of two parts. One is the web page as can be seen at [2]. This is relatively easy to translate and adapt for english wikipedia. I already started translation but had a lack of time to continue this process. The other thing is the calculation of the text share for the different authors. This is relatively time consuming and it would need some more parallel instances calculating these on tool labs. It uses the program described at de:Benutzer:APPER/WikiHistory/Programm (german). Additionally I wrote an article about the general problems of calculating text shares (de:Benutzer:APPER/WikiHistory/Autorenbestimmung, german). So at the moment only my time is the limiting factor. If there are english speaking programmers, who want to support this, I could add them as maintainers to the wikihistory project on tool labs. --APPER (talk) 14:42, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi APPER, thank you for the response. Cyberpower and Kudpung, what needs to happen for this to be usable here? Sarah (talk) 23:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm certainly not in a position to be added as another maintainer to another project. Then I really would be biting off more than I could chew. If APPER is will to let me port the code to xTools to borrow, I can set up a temporary enwiki one until xTools has been rewritten.—cyberpowerChat:Online 23:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't think that's what he meant. Adding you as a maintainer is the way of giving you access to the code. I'd be surprised if there are any quid pro quos involved on the German side. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Oh well in that case, I would like to be added. :-)—cyberpowerChat:Online 01:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, cyberpower and Kudpung. Pinging APPER so that he sees this. Sarah (talk) 01:43, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


I saw that you'll be running for adminship in the near future, ping me when you start, I'd hate to miss it! ;) --AmaryllisGardener talk 21:40, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

How did you see that? :p Yes. Having read the nom statement from TParis, I'm inclined to accept. No idea of the outcome though, and it won't be the end of the world if I fail. There's plenty I could do with the bit, but I can still do plenty without. The most nerve racking part is start the process. :-)—cyberpowerChat:Online 23:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I stalk TP's tp. That's how. Hehe :P --AmaryllisGardener talk 00:25, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Well I just answered the question and accepted the nom, but I'm too nervous to move and transclude it. :s—cyberpowerChat:Online 01:10, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Do it. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 07:40, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
In fact, I'll co-nominate you if you like. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 10:58, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
I would like that.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 11:05, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
There you go. I don't know how much help that will be... You should do fine in any case. Transclude it and prepare for a somewhat stressful week. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 12:28, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
When you move the page to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cyberpower678 and transclude it to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship#Current nominations for adminship, make sure that you remove the 01:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC) signature and re-sign it, otherwise you might not get the full seven days. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:21, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Is there anything on Wikipedia that you don't know how to do, Redrose64? Your knowledge of process and procedures continues to amaze me. ;-) Liz Read! Talk! 17:33, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Checking in[edit]

Hi Cyberpower, I just wanted to check in during this week of deployment doom (the beginning of the rawcontinue change plus leap second on the same day...). I figure that at this point, you know whether anything's broken due to changes outside this wiki. The rawcontinue change arrives here at the Wikipedias in about 20 hours or so. I hope that it all goes smoothly for you, but please let me know if anything weird's happening. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 22:09, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I forgot about NoomBot which runs independent of Peachy, and that it still needed to be updated. Thanks for reminding me. Everything should be able to handle Armageddon now. :p—cyberpowerChat:Online 00:10, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Page blanking[edit]

Hi, hopefully I'm posting this in the right place. I'd just like to let you know that Cyberbot II just blanked the article The Decision (TV special) with this edit. There were two other edits to the same article shortly before that where it seems to be undoing its own work. Regards, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:16, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

/facedesk. I'll take a look.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 02:21, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Applied a quick fix that checks for empty page text.—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 02:24, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Wiki ViewStats[edit]

Hi Cyberpower678, is there any chance to revive the tool or is it down for ever? I loved it, but Hedonil is of duty since August 2014 and the tool does not work anymore since September 2014, I think. Sorry for my broken English, please contakt me on my german Wikipedia talkpage for an answer. Kind regards and thank you. --Lómelinde (talk) 06:58, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Current AfDs[edit]

Just browsing User:Cyberbot I/Current AfDs and noticed recent updates listing several nominations that have been closed for more than a week (click the last column to sort and find the longest few). Is there a technical reason for this or is there an error somewhere? Fuebaey (talk) 19:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll have a look at it in a few hours. Got to deal with a few things first.—cyberpowerChat:Online 21:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC)