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  • Hello!! I am Cyberpower678. I am your typical run of the mill user here on Wikipedia.
  • I specialize in bot work and tools, but I lurk around RfPP, AfD, AIV, and AN/I, as well as RfA. If you have any questions in those areas, please feel free to ask. :-)
  • I also serve as a mailing list moderator and account creator over at the Account Creation Center. If you have any questions regarding an account I created for you, or the process itself, feel free to email the WP:ACC team or me personally.
  • At current I have helped to create accounts for 2435 different users.
  • Disputes or discussions that appear to have ended or is disputed will be archived.

All the best.—cyberpower


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Just some more data[edit]

While you are working on getting the InternetArchiveBot spruced up, I wanted to give you some more input on its behavior that I don't think I've seen addressed here (though I may have missed it). Here are some specific problems pulled from my watchlist over the past few weeks:

  1. Global warming, July 2 (yes, it's old, but it could still be good data...): In this edit, the edit summary said "rescuing 7 sources and tagging 0 as dead", but the actual edit modified only two citations and marked them both as dead. On the talk page, however, all seven links are listed, including one that isn't even in the article. (The edit also removed spaces before parameters but added them after.)
    This isn't really a bug, sometimes, if it can't correctly fix the source, it won't but it will still mention it on the talk page. Though I can investigate why they aren't getting fixed.—cyberpowerChat:Online 09:19, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
    I would guess that's because the citations in that article are all over the place, combining {{cite}}, {{citation}}, {{harvnb}}, {{DOI}}, bare links, the kitchen sink, and tacked-on text with links. All the links (except one) listed on the talk page, however, are all working. Not sure why it would choose just those.— Gorthian (talk) 18:00, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
    What I mean is, sometimes it can't fix the wikimarkup, so it only gets mentioned on the talk page.—cyberpowerChat:Online 10:02, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
  2. Yosemite National Park, July 16: This edit mangled a perfectly functioning {{Wayback}} template in "External links" and added the parameter "deadurl=unfit".
    This was fixed in the v1.1 release.—cyberpowerChat:Online 09:19, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
  3. Yosemite National Park, July 20: I detailed the problems with this edit here, and you remarked that it was a new one.
    I forgot to create a ticket for that one. Too many bug reports. Filed under T141248.—cyberpowerChat:Online 09:19, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
  4. Geology (edit) and Quick clay (here), July 21: The bot inserted the {{Wayback}} template into references. What happened to having it use a cite template (for bare URLs without text) and leaving it alone if there is text? It used to be able to do that.
    There's nothing wrong with those edits. Because the links have text it adds a wayback tag to it, and leaves the link alone.—cyberpowerChat:Online 09:19, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Putting the Wayback template into a citation makes a mess of the citation and makes it a real chore to clean up. What GreenC said in the last discussion about this was "there are other tools to semi-automatically convert bare links to cite web + archive URL. However if the Wayback template is inserted by Cyberbot, those tools won't work and it must be done 100% manual. So it's actually creating more work for someone to later clean up." Maybe using the Wayback template isn't the best solution in citations. There must be another way to insert an archive link into a bare-link reference. — Gorthian (talk) 18:00, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Three types of refs a bot could ideally convert to a cite template:
  1. http://site.com
  2. [http://site.com]
  3. [http://site.com title]
If the ref contains other text fallback to wayback template (see no other option). I believe CB is doing 1 & 2? -- GreenC 18:45, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
It's the ones with extra text I'm talking about. Wouldn't it be possible to insert a second "bare URL" immediately after the original that would contain the Wayback URL and date? I'm going to have to go dig up an example... — Gorthian (talk) 19:00, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Okay, here's the original reference.[1] And here's the archived reference.[2] Wouldn't this be do-able? — Gorthian (talk) 19:14, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
If that was done it should be templated to keep maintaince of links cleaner for bots and people. In which case why not keep using {{wayback}}? If it's a display concern, which is understandable, we could patch the wayback template to have an "inline" switch to change how its displayed to be more suitable for inline citations (the template was originally designed for external link sections in mind not for use in citations). -- GreenC 02:20, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes, display is a problem (I especially dislike the "Wayback Machine" link intruded into the citation), but the way the date parameter is formatted (e.g., |date=20050107123045) is tedious to unravel manually, and other tools don't know what to do with it. Plus, the Wayback Machine isn't the only archive possible. Maybe a new template is in order? — Gorthian (talk) 16:02, 27 July 2016 (UTC) (apologies for the delay in replying)
A new template may be a solution. Using the wayback template inside citations was probably never a good idea but evolved organically before Cyberbot to address this problem. If the new template was in Lua it could automatically detect the date from the URL and, the archive name, so would only require the URL which would be easy shortcut. If the URL was short-form like archive.is or webcite it could have optional arguments for the date in mdy or dmy or 14-digit. It would also have a bot arg to keep track of who added it. Ping @Trappist the monk: any other ideas or concerns. -- GreenC 17:06, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
I don't think that I have never used or edited {{wayback}}. Why am I being pinged?
Trappist the monk (talk) 21:30, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
The conversation deals with displaying citations. I thought you might have some other insight I was missing but no trouble if not. -- GreenC 22:44, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Hope the revamp is chugging along. Thanks. — Gorthian (talk) 05:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

I haven't had much time the last few days, but I'm going to start hammering away these bugs.—cyberpowerChat:Online 09:19, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

WebCite URL problem[edit]

Here, the bot incorrectly added an archive URL as "https://web.http://www.webcitation.org/5hRn3DyEf". – nyuszika7h (talk) 16:22, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Also a lingering remnant of when the bot only supported archive.org archives. Another more heavy purge script may be needed.—cyberpowerChat:Online 10:08, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

some hints[edit]

Webcitation

Please see: Template_talk:WebCite#Date_from_webcite-ID so this code: {{Webarchiv | url=http://www.geocities.com/los_angeles_coast/public_transportation.html | webciteID=5kbAUIXb6 | text=Los Angeles Public Transportation}}

produces expand in dewiki to:

Los Angeles Public Transportation (Memento vom 17. Oktober 2009 auf WebCite)

The query-part of the url is for special:linksearch and has no effect for the URL

Archive.is

in dewiki we strictly avoid shortlinks to archiv.is, only long-links are allowed in ns=0 => https://tools.wmflabs.org/giftbot/weblinksuche.fcgi?limit=100&offset=10800&target=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2F%25&namespace=0&associated=0

there are not links to http: we only use https for archive.is: https://tools.wmflabs.org/giftbot/weblinksuche.fcgi?target=http%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2F%25&namespace=0

If so archive.is dies in fare future, we have the original url. Expand of the short-URLs to long URLs can be done by a bot.

(btw: https://tools.wmflabs.org/giftbot/weblinksuche.fcgi is very cool. It allows Wildcard search and filter of Namespaces ) Example: https://tools.wmflabs.org/giftbot/weblinksuche.fcgi?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webcitation.org%2F%25http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geocities.com%2Flos_angeles_coast%2Fpublic_transportation.html&namespace=0

hth: Boshomi (talk) 17:35, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

See also this RC still open but will likely close to use long form over short on en. -- GreenC 17:42, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
Not sure what's the point in using two different set of rules for WebCite and archive.is, both could have an ID specified in the template. Anyway, if the cite template is properly used, link rot is not a concern with short links as the original URL should be present in the template already. nyuszika7h (talk) 18:04, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
The RfC addresses concerns with the short form and spam. There is not always a template. -- GreenC 18:12, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
I know the RfC also addresses concerns with spam, I was talking about the German Wikipedia. nyuszika7h (talk) 18:14, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Are these hints for the German Wikipedia?—cyberpowerChat:Limited Access 18:46, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the link to the RFC.
  • This are hints for enwiki, The extraction of the timestamp from WebciteID is very useful, magic for people who did not know that it is form this 9 Chars/16 digits.
  • I am missing a tool like giftbot/weblinksuche for enwiki. This is very efficient. With the template de:Vorlage:Giftbotweblinksuche, I can search a URL in different web archives and in giftbot found urls on the talk-pages. Boshomi (talk) 20:52, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
    IABot has a huge DB of URLs with respective archives and timestamps. So the timestamp extraction isn't really that big of an issue. IABot is also capable of resolving all formats of webcite, wayback, archiveis, and memento URLs.—cyberpowerChat:Online 08:46, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
    @Boshomi: Memento can help you with searching in multiple archives. nyuszika7h (talk) 13:58, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
@Nyuszika7H: Mementoweb is part of the german {{:de:dead link}}-template (diff dewiki dead link) Boshomi (talk) 14:13, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Note about weird (but insignificant) behavior[edit]

Hello. Just thought you might like to know that your bot created an empty page, trying to remove pp-pc1 from a page that was deleted 6 minutes earlier: Abel Tesfaye (the Weeknd). I've speedied the page and just thought I'd let you know. Cheers ~ twsx | talkcont | ~ 19:40, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

It was probably running through its list during that time.—cyberpowerChat:Online 07:14, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

My vector page[edit]

I asked for help in technical village pump to change the background color of Wikipedia pages. According to their instruction, I was able to change the color background while logged in to Wikipedia. But, the space above the page name is always remaining white. It is not changing colors. Can you tell me how to make the entire page's background colored? This is the screenshot of how I see Wikipedia pages. --Rainbow Archer (talk) 07:10, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't think you can.—cyberpowerChat:Online 07:14, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

global rename[edit]

Hi, I noticed you are active in renaming users so maybe you can help. I have a global rename request that is listed as on hold until July 28. It has actually beenstarted. The old username is gone. But I can't log in with the new one either; I get a message saying "rename in progress". The status says the rename is complete everywhere except en WP. It has been this way for over 24 hours. I don't know if the process is working or if something got stuck. The old name is Mb66w and the new name is MB. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.126.250.222 (talk) 13:30, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Your rename got stuck. Something went wrong on this Wikipedia.—cyberpowerChat:Online 14:14, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Is there something I need to do to get it "unstuck" or are you taking care of it and/or notifying someone who can? Thanks. 174.126.250.222 (talk) 14:25, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Only a sysadmin can fix it, and I have notified them. :/—cyberpowerChat:Online 14:27, 29 July 2016 (UTC)