User talk:Cyberwolf/Archives/2023/August

Nomination for deletion of Template:Tv show

Template:Tv show has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 07:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Small bore at the gorge

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Small bore at the gorge moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Small bore at the gorge, is not suitable as written to remain published. It need citations from reliable, independent sources to show notability. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Kleuske (talk) 18:55, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

New message from Cyberwolf434344

Hello, Cyberwolf. You have new messages at Cyberwolf434344's talk page.
Message added 17:51, 9 August 2023 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

•Cyberwolf• 17:51, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Counter-vandalism academy

Hello @Cyberwolf434344!

I saw your recent request for rollback was declined and it was recommended that you join the CVA. I see potential in your vandal-fighting abilities, and would like you to become my student in the Counter vandalism academy. What do you think? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 02:46, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

I have also enrolled myself as your mentor, so feel free to ask me any questions you have! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 03:00, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Alright, thank you •Cyberwolf• 12:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Is that a yes? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 12:14, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes •Cyberwolf• 12:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Great! I have created your training page for you here. I have posted your first 2 lesssons, so if lease complete them when you get a chance. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 12:32, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

I added some more about Good-faith edits vs vandalism. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 12:42, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Finished :) •Cyberwolf• 14:23, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

I have added a new lesson on warning/reporting users that is pretty important. This may take awhile to complete, so I will give you a few days to work on it. I’ll be monitoring your progress! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 14:28, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Alright •Cyberwolf• 14:33, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

I have a question how would I warn or notify a person that they can’t or mistakenly add text to a redirect page •Cyberwolf• 12:50, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

There is no specific warning for that, I don’t think. I would just leave a friendly note on their talk page explaining. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 12:57, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

It’s getting weird •Cyberwolf• 13:08, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Yusuf_Raza_Gilani&diff=prev&oldid=1158017105 •Cyberwolf• 13:10, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

That’s odd. It has nothing to do with the article; so  Reverted. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 13:15, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Also, when reverting vandalism, don’t forget to record in in the table. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 21:44, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Are you still interested in the CVUA? You haven’t edited your lessons in almost 2 weeks. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:53, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes I am but I'm currently on vacation so I will probably edit in a week or two I'm so sorry •Cyberwolf• 02:00, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

That makes a lot of sense, and no need to be sorry. I will be happy to instruct you once you get back. Enjoy your well earned vacation! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 02:01, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Are you still interested? It has been longer than 1-2 weeks, so I’d thought I should check. Thanks! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 16:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I'm currently taking a break •Cyberwolf• 20:02, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

That’s fine! Do you plan to be active in the future? If so, when? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 20:04, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Late july August maybe •Cyberwolf• 20:08, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

I’ll see you then! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 20:11, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Im back •Cyberwolf• 14:47, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Great. I’ll re-mark your training as active. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 15:35, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Um i just did a bunch of patrolling today do i have to manually enter each diff in to the tabe •Cyberwolf• 19:29, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, for documentation. It also allows you to leave comments involving your revert and diffs to AIV reports. Secondly, administrators will look at your coursework before deciding to grant rollback, so I think it best to complete it. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 19:33, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Alright can you look at the diffs I have submitted? •Cyberwolf• 19:54, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

When I get a chance, I will. I’m quite busy right now. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 20:00, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok •Cyberwolf• 20:01, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

So i lost diff links to most of diff for deleted pages that i reported •Cyberwolf• 14:10, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Btw this is breaking my screen may we move to talk page of the training page? •Cyberwolf• 14:12, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Illusion Flame and Cyberwolf434344, I guess you've both started editing so recently you both belong to the post-reply button era still seems like we started doing that yesterday to me but if a thread continues for a while you can periodically outdent it by using {{od}}, or {{od2}} if you prefer. Yes you have to edit the wikitext directly, but it really isn't that bad I promise, some of us did it for more than two decades and it worked fine. You may also find it advantageous to periodically insert WP:Arbitrary breaks when discussions become long. Just remember to sign your posts the old fashioned way with ~~~~ when directly editing the wikitext. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 21:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for taking care of that disruptive editor and restoring content in those articles.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:57, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Your recent edits at UAA

Hi, and thanks for your contributions. I noticed that you've been commenting on UAA reports. This is unnecessary and isn't recommended for non-admins, although I appreciate that you're trying to help. Most UAA reports are pretty straightforward. There generally isn't anything to add that the admins can't figure out themselves by having a quick look at the user's edits or just using common sense. The only exceptions I can think of are reports involving usernames with offensive non-English terms that most admins wouldn't be aware of. I've worked quite a bit in recent changes patrol (although I've been more focused on other areas lately) so feel free to reach out if you have any questions about RC patrol or Wikipedia in general. Thanks :) — SamX [talk · contribs] 05:10, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

+rollback for a month

Hi Cyberwolf434344,

After reviewing your request, I have added your account to the rollback group. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Users should be informed (or warned) after their edits have been reverted. If warnings repeatedly don't help, WP:ANI is the default place to go. In cases of very clear ongoing intentional damage to the encyclopedia, WP:AIV can be used.
• Reverting someone's edits may confuse or upset them. Whenever other users message you on your talk page, please take the time to respond to their concerns; accountability is important. For most users who message you, the tone and quality of your answer will permanently influence their opinion about Wikipedia in general.
• Because the plain default rollback link does not provide any explanatory edit summary, it must not be used to revert good faith contributions, even if these contributions are disruptive. Take the time to write a proper summary whenever you're dealing with a lack of neutrality or verifiability; a short explanation like "[[WP:NPOV|not neutral]]" or "[[WP:INTREF|Please provide a citation]]" is helpful.
• Rollback may never be used to edit war, which you'll notice to be surprisingly tempting in genuine content disputes. Please especially keep the three-revert rule in mind. If you see others edit warring, please file a report at WP:ANEW. The most helpful essay I've ever seen is WP:DISCFAIL; it is especially important for those who review content regularly.
• If you encounter private information or threats of physical harm during your patrols, please quickly use Special:EmailUser/Oversight or Special:EmailUser/Emergency; ideally bookmark these pages now. See WP:OS and WP:EMERGENCY for details. If you're regularly patrolling recent changes, you will need both contacts sooner or later, and you'll be happy about the bookmarks.
• Use common sense.

To try rollback for the first time, you may like to make an edit to WP:Sandbox, and another one, and another one, and then revert the row with one click. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about rollback. Thank you for your time and work in cleaning up Wikipedia. Happy editing!

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:05, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Tee

You have reverted me. It is not clear why. 86.88.105.173 (talk) 13:11, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Because that claim was unsourced •Cyberwolf• 13:12, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

What do you mean? Which claim was unsourced? I am talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tee&diff=prev&oldid=1171833971 86.88.105.173 (talk) 13:13, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Your claim that it was fake •Cyberwolf• 13:29, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

I did not claim that it was fake. Do you think I should add sources for what I write in the editsummary?? The claim made in the article is clearly untrue, see for example http://town.trochu.ab.ca/visiting-trochu/worlds-largest-tee/ please revert yourself. 86.88.105.173 (talk) 13:31, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

It’s on Guinness website •Cyberwolf• 14:42, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I will request that rollback is revoked again because you are not ready for it. 1 86.88.105.173 (talk) 14:01, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Bro you can’t do that •Cyberwolf• 14:38, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

thank you , i am now gonna frame this on my wall •Cyberwolf• 18:43, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

So, 3 days after you received rollback you decided to abuse it by rolling back a good-faith and valid edit (point 4 above) while not supplying an editsummary or explanation on the talkpage (point 2 above). When asked for an explanation on your talkpage you imply that editsummaries require sources. When proof is provided that the edit you made introduced misinformation on Wikipedia you ignore that. Then you post a user warning for civility on my talkpage, abusing TWINKLE, while being incivil. 86.88.105.173 (talk) 22:25, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I make 1 mistake and your having a mental breakdown •Cyberwolf• 22:33, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Please re-read my rollback granting message, specifically the bullet point about "accountability". ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:22, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Im sorry I made mistake but why I I I I think Im FOLDING IIIII THINK I MAY QUIT •Cyberwolf• 23:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Take a breath, a sleep, whatever. The world is not ending and there's almost a month left to demonstrate having learned from this. You may like to remove this all, it's not meant to be a wall of shame. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:31, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I hadn't even seen this. @ToBeFree: please revoke rollback. This user is clearly not ready to have it. And undo the edit to their userpage. 86.88.105.173 (talk) 22:29, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I have removed the polemic section entirely, undone the latest revert of your edit and removed a personal attack made in response to your concerns. I agree with everything you wrote above except for an immediate need to revoke the permission. Its duration is already limited to a month and I'd like to see how the rest of the trial continues. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I am happy to give you some diffs that show that the recent changes patrolling is far from perfect; but based on their response they lack the emotional maturity to handle cooperating with others on Wikipedia. 86.88.105.173 (talk) 23:31, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I have seen and replied to that message now, and I'd prefer to wait instead of directly taking action. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:33, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

There is no rush, and a lot of rope. Thanks again. 86.88.105.173 (talk) 23:35, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I. May apply for a wiki break I think i have reached my maximum mental limit this month :

Edits in the past 30 days

729

so I’m drained

i would like to sincerely apologize for my lapse in civility to both of you

i wounded myself today(not actually)

and I’m hoping that this wound won’t paralyze me later

so I would like to once again apologize for this overall response

ip and tobefree •Cyberwolf• 23:46, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey, I had already forgotten about this. All good. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:11, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: being an arse •Cyberwolf• 23:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not ToBeFree or the person editing with using the IP, but it's good to see this self-reflection. You might have figured this out already based on recent experience, but removing content from articles is often constructive and necessary. Wikipedia has a lot of content that's very poorly written, isn't supported by reliable sources, violates our policy on writing about living people, or goes against policies or guidelines in some other way. It's true that vandals often remove large chunks of content, but you should carefully read the content that was removed before you re-add it or leave a warning on the editor's talk page.

Regarding rollback: I try to use it very sparingly. If I think it's possible that the edit I'm reverting was a legitimate attempt to improve Wikipedia, I assume good faith and use Twinkle to revert so that I can leave a custom note in the edit summary. Using rollback to revert an edit is basically saying "this edit is obviously bad and I don't need to explain this revert". I hope this helps. — SamX [talk · contribs] 00:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

If I may add one aspect that is more-or-less relevant depending on anonymity and location (and thus highly relevant for me personally as my identity is public and I live in a country with strict libel laws and criminal prosecution of insults):

You are legally responsible for any material you add to Wikipedia, including any material you re-add if it has been removed by someone else.

This is rarely a problem, but it needs to be kept in mind. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:15, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Not just legally. If someone removes something, and you add it back in, you have to be able to justify its inclusion to other Wikipedians who may disagree. So for example, in case that it is unsourced, it is very wise to add a source before adding it back in. 86.88.105.173 (talk) 20:50, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Mentorship

If you ever need any help getting the hang of anti-vandalism, I can mentor you. Just leave a message on my talk page if you are interested. Scorpions1325 (talk) 02:38, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Ah I have been through the Cuva

I need to document that •Cyberwolf• 20:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

Shadow345110 (talk) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. For being the 20th person to sign my guestbook Shadow345110 (talk) 19:41, 28 August 2023 (UTC) To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.