User talk:Data added

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Hello Data added, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I see that you have blanked the article Llanllwch, giving copyright violation as your reason. Unfortunately simply blanking an article which breaches copyright is not sufficient, as the violating material still remains available in the article's history. I have instead nominated the article for deletion under Wikipedia's Criteria for speedy deletion. It is also possible to place a Copyvio template on the article, which hides it from users while it is awaiting deletion: I would have done this if I thought this was a really blatant copyright violation.

It is not surprising that you don't know the best way to deal with this problem if you are new to editing Wikipedia: many of us make much more serious mistakes when we are learning. There is a great wealth of documentation to explain how Wikipedia works, but you can't possibly read it all before starting. However, a few pages you may like to look at are:

Also please feel welcome to contact me on my talk page if you have any questions you would like to ask me. Once again, welcome to Wikipedia. JamesBWatson (talk) 04:24, 10 September 2009 (UTC)


Proposed deletion of Hannah Saaf[edit]

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The article Hannah Saaf has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Per Articles about people notable only for one event

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.  Chzz  ►  13:34, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello Chzz. I tried to rename it to the event rather than the person but I can't see the button.

Hello. I didn't actually 'see' your reply, above, until I stumbled on it; I noticed the removal of the PROD and hence came here. There's a few things I can try to explain, I hope;
  • If you write a message here, or on an article talk page, or whatever, please could you also put a quick note on the talk page of the user, saying something like, "I have replied to your comments in [[Talk:Hannah Saaf]]" (or whatever), so that the other person is alerted with the 'you have new messages' thing.
  • When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time.
  • You don't have the 'move' option yet simply because you are not yet an auto-confirmed user - you need to have made 10 edits. For the same reason, you can't yet upload files either. It's an automatic thing, so you could simply do a few more edits and wait a bit, or, just tell me what name to use and I'll rename it for you.
  • Renaming the article will certainly help with the issue, and yes, use of inline refs would be great. I'll add some help about that below.
For more help, you can either;
  • Leave a message on my own talk page; OR
  • Use a {{helpme}} - please create a new section at the end of your own talk page, put {{helpme}}, and ask your question - remember to 'sign' your name by putting ~~~~ at the end; OR
  • Talk to us live, with this or this.
Best wishes,  Chzz  ►  22:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

How references work[edit]

Simple references[edit]

These require two parts;

a)
Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>
b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";
== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Data added/reftest and try it out.

Named references[edit]

Chzz was born in 1837, <ref name="MyBook">
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> in Footown.<ref name="MyBook"/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates[edit]

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Llanllwch[edit]

While you are probably correct about the original sources of much of the information in this article, copyright is only violated if entire sentences of the source text are copied word for word in the article. Including facts from other reliable sources is exactly what should be done here. I don't believe there is any copyright violation in the article any more. Thanks.--Michig (talk) 21:05, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

It is not at all true that "copyright is only violated if entire sentences of the source text are copied word for word". Copyright, in the USA and in every other jurisdiction as far as I am aware, can be violated by close paraphrase, where the copy essentially follows the original, and in other ways not covered by that description. See Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Death of Sam Riddall[edit]

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The article Death of Sam Riddall has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non notable event, fails notability guidelines

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Death of Sam Riddall for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Death of Sam Riddall is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death of Sam Riddall until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)