User talk:Gargamel573

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Intermediate template intro

re: This... Intermediate template intro

Hi

I'm new to wikipedia and I'm trying to move a substantial portion of the wikipedia templates to my local mediawiki installation.

is there a batch process I can use to achieve this? (instead of creating every template page one by one copying and pasting from wikipeida)
I would be very grateful if you can point me to a good starting point to understanding the template relationships (I studied the syntax) in terms of hierarchy- what template is built upon other more basic templates- just a pointer to the path in the template forest ;)

Thanks very much for your time!

Gargamel573 17:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)--[reply]

1) Unfortunately there is no batch process I know of. All templates (supposedly) can be found in a categorization scheme with the common root category Category:Wikipedia templates(edit talk links history).

2) If might be possible to run a BOT, but AFAIK you'll still need a list to begin with.

3) Sweeping importation of templates would be contraindicated in any respect. The typical template is modular, portable, and optimized by a task, and (lately, this is still settling out and in transition) categorized by groups of such. Only template attributes which need shared between a variety of templates are normally written to involve sectional templates or sub-templates. [My term sectional refers to such that are used to build similar but sectioned info boxes such as for a chemical substance, particularly elements and compounds (e.g. See Silicon (edit talk links history), also, see whatlinkshere for Template:S-start (backlinks edit) which begins one type of succession template. These I call modular and sectional, as you can mix and match and include them by semi-arbitrary order.] Given that categorization, you have heirarchies, see for example the contents of Navigational templates... which is/are merely other categories by application class. The latest re-org, installed classifications by namespace, so Template namespace templates will lead to sub-templates and other templates used within templates (some are for tagging or autocategorization).

4) I presume you're running mediawiki software, so utility templates will work for you, but unless it's a foundation sister project, again, a large majority of templates will do you no good at all. See for example the categories: Interwiki link templates, Internal link templates and Interwiki utility templates.

5) Now there are some generic templates which may do you some good right off, see for example categories: Formatting templates, Function templates, Typing-aid templates, but no matter what you do you're gonna run into the issue of what do you know and what do you need, and how will you remember. In short, having a library of wonderful goodies is just piles of books without organization and a card catalog. We here at wikipedia haven't even gotten to first base on the latter, much less a modern computerized system to replace a card catalog.

6) Others are really specific to articles and specialized tasks (Succession templates, infoboxes, etc. are intertwined with wikipedia standard ways of doing certain things.)

7) You're best bet would be to cultivate a few people and have a few dozen of your people each cultivate a few contacts here you can ask "Is there any thing that will do such and such kind of thing", and just get on with building your site. If you copy too much wholesale, no one will grasp what is there, know about it, or be able to modify and maintain it so that it suites the needs of your mission and problems.

8 I'll be glad to answer inquiries, time permitting, but I'm really weary of templates in a lot of ways, so am not interested in getting into anything in a systematic way. Unfortunately, there is no good guide to templates of generic utility... that is as user help. We're working in that direction, but there are too many chiefs and not enough indians, so things are really sitting right now. Being that it's summer, I'm demotivated in any event. Some of the more useful tools class templates were categorized in Interwiki utility templates, and presuming that's been stable, that would be a good place to start. Good Luck! // FrankB 01:39, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Parser functions

Hi. I'm sorry, I don't know anything about parser functions in other wikis than in the Wikimedia Foundation. I suggest that you ask an administrator or a bureaucrat, or maybe a steward, Jon Harald Søby for instance.

Can you tell me why you put your message on my user page and not in my talk page? — H92 (t · c · no) 10:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I replied to your question here. Jon Harald Søby 20:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

requesting help with parser function ;)

You need to install them, i needed to for a wiki I set up once.

I think you can download them from the mediawiki website

--TheJosh 14:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]