User talk:Geordie Cop
Lib Dems
[edit]You have to be careful with political spectrum in articles about political parties. The Lib Dems have been historically centrists and as of recent, majority centre-left. You then mentions only source (an opinion piece at that) and say that the party's political identity has a history of being "centre-right"? It doesn't work like that.
Feel free to use the articles talk page to show your point of view and why you are right and i'm wrong, but here is my advice: first, use more than one source; second, try to go for academic sources, opinion pieces by journalists can be easily contested. Third, remember that political spectrum is a very volatile concept and you gonna need stronger arguments than the ones you presented.
But remember the WP:Status quo and WP:CHALLENGE. The disputed content should be re-added only if there is WP:CONSENSUS. Cheers, Coltsfan (talk) 10:37, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, but in fairness, it's not just that source that states the Lib Dem's have been centre-right. In fact, I would say that considering Ed Davey is likley to be elected in the next leadership election and his is considered part of the party's centre-right Orange Booker branch, then the party is still positioned on the centre-right. The centre-right of the party (orange bookers) are deemed to have had control of the party since at least Nick Clegg's election as party leader in 2007, and party had a much more centre-right stance in the coalition government of 2010-2015. Although Tim Farron, leader from 2015-2017, was considered to be more centre-left, the two leaders since, Vince Cable and Jo Swinson are also deemed as representatives of the centre-right (with Vince Cable being an orange booker). If I get time I will find some more academic sources for evidence of their historical and possibly continuing centre-right stance. Geordie Cop (talk) 10:45, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Find the sources, show them in the talk page, and if no one contest it or if they agree with you, the info can be re-added, no problem. But that one source, a opinion piece, not very well developed in the article, is just far from being enough, per WP:V. Coltsfan (talk) 11:33, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, but in fairness, it's not just that source that states the Lib Dem's have been centre-right. In fact, I would say that considering Ed Davey is likley to be elected in the next leadership election and his is considered part of the party's centre-right Orange Booker branch, then the party is still positioned on the centre-right. The centre-right of the party (orange bookers) are deemed to have had control of the party since at least Nick Clegg's election as party leader in 2007, and party had a much more centre-right stance in the coalition government of 2010-2015. Although Tim Farron, leader from 2015-2017, was considered to be more centre-left, the two leaders since, Vince Cable and Jo Swinson are also deemed as representatives of the centre-right (with Vince Cable being an orange booker). If I get time I will find some more academic sources for evidence of their historical and possibly continuing centre-right stance. Geordie Cop (talk) 10:45, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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