User talk:George Ho/Archives/2022/October

Oh Well

Any good reason why you want to delete both covers on that page and add your own, inferior image? Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@Bretonbanquet: Well.... Fleetwood Mac was the British band, but that's before the group change. I figured that a portion of the British release should represent the song. It's not about being on the cover. Rather displaying that "inferior image" should help readers recognize how the release was manufactured and distributed in the band's home country.

If you like to keep both covers, fine. However, they essentially provide the same purpose: identifying the song or single release. Using more than one cover art has been discussed and normally discouraged over and over, especially at WT:NFC and WP:VPP.

All right, how about using one cover art and one "inferior image"? George Ho (talk) 15:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I don't see why the British release should get priority just because the band were British. I don't really agree that any information displayed on the record label trumps a sleeve with the band's photo on it. Free images of that lineup are extremely scarce, and it's an opportunity to show useful information. Anyway - a question. Record labels are not cover art, so are they subject to the same fair use criteria? I understand that two examples of cover art infringe that rule, but are record labels actually copyrighted? In any case, I'm happy with using one record sleeve plus the record label. You can choose which one; both the French and Spanish sleeves are mine, as are the original photos. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

are record labels actually copyrighted? They can be only if they contain complex logos and creative expressions. Otherwise, logos that are below originality threshold and factual info still would be insufficient to help a vinyl label sticker go above the threshold, IMHO. Two examples are File:Summer breeze part 1 by isley brothers US single.png and File:Reunited by Peaches and Herb, New Zealand single.png, both of which I uploaded on Commons. George Ho (talk) 21:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

So you're saying it depends (in this case) whether or not the Reprise logo constitutes a complex logo? Interesting. How do we know for sure if this is the case or not? Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:30, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

A logo that complex, like the Reprise UK one, rather than simple, like the T-Neck one, and highly emphasized would make a label not free to use. Furthermore, c:COM:TOO US explains which logos may or may not surpass originality threshold. Also, the Reprise UK logo itself has elements that makes the logo itself complex sufficiently for an average eye.

Not just one logo, but the background color of the label must be also complex, like File:Never, Never Gonna Give Ya Up US vinyl Side A 20th century fox.jpg, rather than plain and simple. Otherwise, it'd be like a Sire Records vinyl label sticker, like File:Holiday by Madonna US vinyl.png: simple yellow background, a yin-yang-ish shape, and every factual elements lacking creativity. Never mind the dust on the bottom half. George Ho (talk) 22:51, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Okay, that's really interesting. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:55, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

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