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November 2020

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Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Ashley Biden. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. RedPanda25 00:51, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry won't happen again GreyGhost1313 (talk) 00:53, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The article Motel on Murder Mountain has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

I am unable to find multiple reliable sources discussing this book per WP:GNG / WP:NBOOK.

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Nomination of Motel on Murder Mountain for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Motel on Murder Mountain is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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  • This is a new novella published by Entertainment Inc, along with Street Stalker: Stalker Di Strada

These novellas are an attempted revival of the Weird Menace, and Giallo sub-genre. I have nothing personal to gain from this, no profit, I'm not the author. It's simply for love and hopeful revival of the genre. I will provide more links with articles about this topic. This is a new, yet noteworthy book to the longevity of the genre. It's the first giallo audiobook as well. GreyGhost1313 (talk) 20:39, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • The issue is that this claim - that it's the first - is difficult to prove. There would need to be coverage in independent and reliable sources. The reason for that is because this claim is at least technically incorrect. The term 'giallo' comes from the Italian pulp book series "Il Giallo Mondadori", which would often publish non-Italian authors like Agatha Christie. This could be presumed to place her works - or at least those translated and republished under this series title - in the realm of giallo fiction. Since much of her work has been adapted into audiobook format, radio plays, and the type, this makes the claim of this novella being the first giallo audiobook technically wrong.
This novella wasn't published exclusively to audiobook format, so this would pose an issue with the audiobook claim as well since it could be seen as promotional puffery since it's not uncommon for print (ebook or paper) books to receive audiobook narration. It can be more difficult for indie authors, but it's not impossible - especially in this age when podcasting is a popular outlet to reach readers. Heck, it's how Scott Sigler managed to reach most of his fanbase.
There's also an issue with the term 'giallo' as well. It can be applied to fiction but isn't typically done, so it can be argued that there are many books that would fall into this genre, either intentionally or not. Some fiction is published with the term readily applied to it. Others use it as a way to describe mystery novels that are a bit more gory and lurid than others. (On a side note, some view exploitation films as a separate genre from giallo, even though they overlap greatly. I think it's a "all apples are fruit but not all fruit are apples type of deal".) It's a pretty broad term, to say the least.
My point with all of this is that I want to impress upon you how important it is to have independent and reliable sourcing that explicitly states the claims being made, particularly if the claim is being used to establish notability. I understand if all of this seems frustrating - it's frustrating at times for me as well, since there are a lot of indie authors that I'd like to put on here. The coverage just isn't there.
On a side note, I'd really like to see more literature in the giallo genre. A lot of it tends to bounce around or be lumped into a broader genre, especially as horror lit as a whole is still greatly struggling to reach the levels of popularity that it had years ago. (Paperbacks from Hell is a great read on the topic of horror lit in the 70s and 80s, if you're interested.) ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 04:08, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

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Hello, GreyGhost1313, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

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November 2020

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or promotion. From your contributions, this seems to be your only purpose.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 10:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • You seem to be here predominantly to promote and otherwise write about an indie novella. Your edits are made up of attempts to insert mentions of the novella and its author into various articles. The only edits that do not center around this was to comment on the deletion discussion and vandalize the page on Biden's daughter. The promotional editing would be problematic enough, but pairing it with vandalism makes your edits extremely problematic - even if you just did it as a test and apologized for doing so. In order to be unblocked you would need to be able to show that you understand what you did wrong and to promise not to edit about the novella or its author, as well as give an example of what you will do if unblocked. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 10:56, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]