User talk:HKyprosEinaiElliniki

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HKyprosEinaiElliniki (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Being accussed of being a sockpuppet with no actual proof:

• Note that:
• The person accusing people of being Chauvinist has been the same person for months (FDW777), no proper investigations are being done, the accounts just get banned in the middle of the night (in Cyprus), which I'm assuming is so that we don't get a chance to defend ourselves.
• The reason FDW even stated I was a sockpuppet, was because I edited something, that isn't proof of sockpuppetry, that's just how Wikipedia is, I said this in my statement "Looking at this whole page and the investigations it seems that there rarely proof of an actual sock on FDWs behalf, editing what other users have edited before isn't proof of a sock. "
• The admins clearly arent sure (And wrong) about who even could be Chauvinist, roysmith, an admin, said "We've lost the confirmed trail back to the master", this clearly indicates that anyone they've been banning since, has been a guess, which is completely unfair to users, why should we pay for other peoples actions?
• The banning admin stated "Probably the same person as the one behind the 21 February accounts. EllasEllinonXristianwn (talk+ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA) is Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely) and on the same IP address. Given the name, I'm blocking that one, too. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)" Again, speaking in probabilities not certainties, the issue is, not only is he wrong, nobody seems to try doing a thorough investigation and the source (the person reporting) is someone whos dedicated to conspiracy theories about chauvinist. I've reviewed all blocks and something I've realised is, the creator is never given the chance to defend themself, nor do the admins involved in these investigations take the time to properly look into this matter and if you look at what Ninja said, he's even banning other accounts based on their names.

Im sorry is this common practice? Banning people because of their name being Greek? Im sure there's a word for that and to be honest, I think that word is what's been happening all along here, looking at the "investigations". The only person who hasn't been banned was the person with an English name (Victor), anyone with a Greek name seems to be out the running. This is wrong. If there isn't proof, just don't ban them, but if you're going to be shutting down people based off their names then we have a big problem.

Decline reason:

Your chance to defend yourself is now. Wikipedia is open 24/7 around the world, and it is hard to base things on when any particular editor is likely to be awake. We also don't know if you work odd hours. One does not need to be 100% sure before issuing a block. I agree that there is enough here for a block, and you haven't yet adequately addressed things, so I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 08:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

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User:331dot I dont know what you want me to say, this is turning into the boston witch trials, you just ban anyone FDW says and just hope for the best, if this was a court, you would all be laughed out of, you have 1 piece of circumstantial evidence (Evrychou) that isn't a case, and FYI, I live in Evrychou so of course, if I can I'm going to edit something about it, but as I said, this is clearly being done on purpose, he said he was also banning another account simply for having a Greek name, that's discrimination, nothing more. Discrimination can be defined as "the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, sex, or disability." "The Greeks or Hellenes (/ˈhɛliːnz/; Greek: Έλληνες, Éllines [ˈelines]) are an ethnic group native to Greece, Cyprus, Albania, Italy, Turkey, Egypt and, to a lesser extent, other countries surrounding the Mediterranean Sea. They also form a significant diaspora, with Greek communities established around the world." I haven't seen 1 solid case on the investigation for Cypriot since HellenicPatriot, so stop treating it as anything but discrimination.

Unblock Request

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HKyprosEinaiElliniki (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I Was accused by a user for being a "sockpuppet", the only "evidence" that was presented on his behalf was "Edit to Cyprus Fire Service here is the same as by previous sockpuppets here and here. Similarly at Evrychou they make this removal in the same way as a previous sockpuppet here. User:HKyprosEinaiElliniki is an interesting userpage containing just one userbox declaring they have a COI on a particular currently non-existent article, just like previous sockpuppet George Papadopolous did here (claiming a COI with a different currently non-existent Cyprus related article admittedly) FDW777 (talk) 22:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)"

• For starters, this user FDW777 has no credibility, hes been the only one accusing people of being a sockpuppet for the past half year (yes, I've looked through the previous investigations too) on Cyprus related pages which indicates these attacks are targeted.
• He also says I have edited the same things as previous users, thats how wikipedia works, people edit, if he has an issue with people editing things he has a conflict of interest in, thats his problem, nobody elses.
• With regards to Evrychou, yes I edited it, because im from there, I also edited Kakopetria, which is the village literally next to it, (I guess it didnt suit him to mention that detail), so clearly there is proof that im from the area, otherwise I wouldnt those villages that are literally next to each other (Technically, Kakopetria is below Evrychou, theyre on the mountains so as you go past Evrychou, you get a turn to either go down towards Kakopetria, or straight which can take you to one of a few exits, mostly leading to Limassol though. Do you guys know where CypriotChauvinist lives? If its here in Evrychou or the area (Which I doubt because id know him, its a place where we all know each other), then there is a case, if not, then that cant be used against me, he could literally be anywhere else in the world.
• Now with regards to the COI, im making a page for the Battle of Nicosia, again other users can edit and create things too. And by the way, George Papadopolous was the leader of the military Junta in Greece, not a lot of people like him in Cyprus like him because they think he is partially to blame for the invasion in 1974, so I don't know how much of a Chauvinist he would be to make a CypriotChauvinist then a person who is also to blame for the invasion of Cyprus, though the Papadopolous account doesn't have to do with me, I'm pointing out the flawed logic of whats going on here.
• His arguments against me are all based on other "sockpuppets" which probably aren't even sockpuppets, so by that logic, it would never end, I've looked at CypriotChauvinists user contributions, we've edited none of the same things. The closest thing to editing the same thing was he edited Cyprus Police and I edited the Cyprus Police Aviation Unit. As I've been writing this I've also seen that he edited something about Larnaka, that was his 2nd edit and he didn't just do a 1-time edit he edited it 9 times which is enough for me to honestly say, this person most probably lives in Larnaka. Looking at hellenicpatriots talk page, which is another user accused of being a sock, he states that his IP address is 185.191.206.9, this IP is mainly based out of Nicosia but reaches Larnaka too, which would confirm my suspicions of where CypriotChauv. could live, what it doesn't get, however, is Evrychou, which is where I live . . Also, if you look at Larnaca the photo of Phinikoudes beach was literally taken by him.
• In conclusion, what I'm saying is, most of the argument against me, is just someone with clearly a personal problem, there is no actual case behind his accusations. Me and Chauvinist clearly live in 2 separate districts (Evrychou is the District of Nicosia and Larnaka, well, is a District) which should already be enough to revoke this ban, not only that though, FDW777 has accused multiple people of being socks and not only that, he has been wrong as well (About viktor), which means he's just shooting for anyone, there is no editorial link between me and CypriotChauvinist either, so what was at here, is, he has nothing.

To prove I live in the area, here is a photo I took recently of the place near enough to where I live, which I have uploaded too

File:A photo of a part of Kakopetria village in Cyprus.jpg

A photo of a part of Kakopetria village in Cyprus, in a mostly residential area.

HKyprosEinaiElliniki (talk) 15:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Checkuser verified abuser of multiple accounts. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 15:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

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HKyprosEinaiElliniki (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I Was accused by a user for being a "sockpuppet", the only "evidence" that was presented on his behalf was "Edit to Cyprus Fire Service here is the same as by previous sockpuppets here and here. Similarly at Evrychou they make this removal in the same way as a previous sockpuppet here. User:HKyprosEinaiElliniki is an interesting userpage containing just one userbox declaring they have a COI on a particular currently non-existent article, just like previous sockpuppet George Papadopolous did here (claiming a COI with a different currently non-existent Cyprus related article admittedly) FDW777 (talk) 22:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)"

   For starters, this user FDW777 has no credibility, hes been the only one accusing people of being a sockpuppet for the past half year (yes, I've looked through the previous investigations too) on Cyprus related pages which indicates these attacks are targeted.
   He also says I have edited the same things as previous users, thats how wikipedia works, people edit, if he has an issue with people editing things he has a conflict of interest in, thats his problem, nobody elses.
   With regards to Evrychou, yes I edited it, because im from there, I also edited Kakopetria, which is the village literally next to it, (I guess it didnt suit him to mention that detail), so clearly there is proof that im from the area, otherwise I wouldnt those villages that are literally next to each other (Technically, Kakopetria is below Evrychou, theyre on the mountains so as you go past Evrychou, you get a turn to either go down towards Kakopetria, or straight which can take you to one of a few exits, mostly leading to Limassol though. Do you guys know where CypriotChauvinist lives? If its here in Evrychou or the area (Which I doubt because id know him, its a place where we all know each other), then there is a case, if not, then that cant be used against me, he could literally be anywhere else in the world.
   Now with regards to the COI, im making a page for the Battle of Nicosia, again other users can edit and create things too. And by the way, George Papadopolous was the leader of the military Junta in Greece, not a lot of people like him in Cyprus like him because they think he is partially to blame for the invasion in 1974, so I don't know how much of a Chauvinist he would be to make a CypriotChauvinist then a person who is also to blame for the invasion of Cyprus, though the Papadopolous account doesn't have to do with me, I'm pointing out the flawed logic of whats going on here.
   His arguments against me are all based on other "sockpuppets" which probably aren't even sockpuppets, so by that logic, it would never end, I've looked at CypriotChauvinists user contributions, we've edited none of the same things. The closest thing to editing the same thing was he edited Cyprus Police and I edited the Cyprus Police Aviation Unit. As I've been writing this I've also seen that he edited something about Larnaka, that was his 2nd edit and he didn't just do a 1-time edit he edited it 9 times which is enough for me to honestly say, this person most probably lives in Larnaka. Looking at hellenicpatriots talk page, which is another user accused of being a sock, he states that his IP address is 185.191.206.9, this IP is mainly based out of Nicosia but reaches Larnaka too, which would confirm my suspicions of where CypriotChauv. could live, what it doesn't get, however, is Evrychou, which is where I live [5]. [6]. Also, if you look at Larnaca the photo of Phinikoudes beach was literally taken by him.
   In conclusion, what I'm saying is, most of the argument against me, is just someone with clearly a personal problem, there is no actual case behind his accusations. Me and Chauvinist clearly live in 2 separate districts (Evrychou is the District of Nicosia and Larnaka, well, is a District) which should already be enough to revoke this ban, not only that though, FDW777 has accused multiple people of being socks and not only that, he has been wrong as well (About viktor), which means he's just shooting for anyone, there is no editorial link between me and CypriotChauvinist either, so what was at here, is, he has nothing.

To prove I live in the area, here is a photo I took recently of the place near enough to where I live, which I have uploaded too [deleted] HKyprosEinaiElliniki (talk) 16:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Duplicate request that is now no point in keeping up as the user's access to this page has been revoked. — Daniel Case (talk) 01:38, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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UTRS 41244

UTRS appeal #41244 has been declined.

I'm sorry, but I cannot unblock you. Please describe in greater detail how your editing was unconstructive and how you would edit constructively if unblocked. Please read Wikipedia's Guide to appealing blocks for more information. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_appealing_blocks) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Wow. Nice picture; proves nothing. Thanks for laying out the SPI evidence at UTRS. Made it easier to get through. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Really? You made the exact same request in two tickets here and then again at UTRS? Why would we respond differently? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:45, 10 March 2021 (UTC)