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Using your own sources[edit]

Although Wikipedia has some guidelines that preclude the use of your own published works, there is no proviso for that precondition in other writing for publication. If you were quoting from your own report or from your personal material, I would caution that you would be particularly judicious in quotes and amount that you would use verbatim. The easiest solution is to provide a context in which you would use the details or interview material, yet using "fresh" material as well. FWIW Bzuk (talk) 19:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC). Sorry I didn't have much time to craft a response as I was in between a few assignments, but another avenue to explore is for another writer to take on the project and you and your knowledge benefits the work as a "source." The question of conflict of interest also brings into play the legal aspects of intellectual property rights so that it would also not be untoward to seek out legal opinion before proceeding. FWIW Bzuk (talk) 22:36, 24 February 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Flags and such[edit]

Flagging an article is actually a useful device that alerts other editors and encourages more participation in developing the article. It's kind of a call on your part as to when there may be no benefit from a request for more resources/cites when you are quite certain that few exist. My usual practice (not policy nor mandated requirement) is to leave the flag in place for a short period to see if any other contributor comes on the scene, if not, you can simply delete the templated message. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 17:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Pebble Mine article[edit]

Hi Hobig -

I'm not hoping for an edit war with you.

My concern is that the article is getting messy, unfocused, and repetitive.

The "Scientific Studies" section was a great addition to the article.

But, it is not an appropriate place for a laundry-list of possible ill effects of mining. Especially since most of those concerns are already addressed elsewhere in the article. For example, see both the geology section and the controversy section for discussion of siesmic risk and reference to groundtruth paper on siemic risk - repeating it in detail a third time in the SciStudy section is too much.

I suggest you put your lists of anti-mine concerns (I do not diss them, they are valid concerns) in the "Arguments against the proposal" section.

Or you could restructure the entire article top to bottom, which might make it a lot better. --CGX (talk) 21:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Hi CGX,

I, too, wish no edit war. But then, I haven't removed any of your posts. While I am relatively new at this, I am attempting to be as neutral as I can. I have, indeed, added scientific study references and links to general mining issues, though they would apply to the Pebble project. I'm not opposed to putting the references in the "Arguments" section, but they seem more appropriate in the science section. That there may be some redundancy does not bother me so much as having the labor of my posts taken down because you believe they are. Why not find scientific studies that offer competing views and leave them in the science discussion area. I even tried to add stuff directly from the Pebble Partnership site that is is the public domain.

I'm afraid I'm not ready to restructure the article top to bottom myself. Perhaps we can work together. Hobig (talk) 21:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

continued discussion on the Pebble Mine discussion page, if thats allright with you.

--CGX (talk) 00:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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