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NOTE: Going back into my old trade as a filmmaker and writer, concentrating on aviation subjects. Animated-Flag-Canada.gif

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Hello, Bzuk. I'm a bit confused about your response to the fair-use problem with File:Screen shot Hero.png. If the image commentary you've added to Hero is so inconsequential that you insist on burying it in a footnote, then why do you feel it necessary to include the non-free image in the first place? If the production or use of the crash scene is particularly significant, then it deserves to be discussed in the main text of the article. If not, then there is no encyclopedic reason to use the image. (See Wikipedia:Non-free content#Meeting the contextual significance criterion, and in particular the part referencing WP:DUE and WP:BALASPS. We don't include images, non-free or otherwise, for purely decorative purposes, and simply adding a token commentary to such an image doesn't bypass the "significance of understanding" criterion for fair use.) —Psychonaut (talk) 19:40, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

The reasoning behind the use of a note to the reader was to give further information as a question about the use of the scene was made. The image is not there for prettiness, but shows a key scene and how it was created, using a set that was rigged for explosion. That's simply the way I wanted to provide the information to the reader. The note is attached to the caption and is fully referenced. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:00, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick response (but please let's keep the conversation in one place). I understand and accept that the note is adequately referenced. I'm just saying that it seems strange to put the commentary in a footnote, suggesting it is relatively unimportant, when the use of the non-free film still is predicated on it being (a) an important part of the movie, and (b) necessary to understand the accompanying commentary. Do you see what I mean? —Psychonaut (talk) 21:29, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

I have used the option of a note to provide an expanded commentary which still is useful to the reader to understand the complexities of staging a dramatic scene. The scene is one that was documented in a number of reference sources dealing with aviation films. The use of a full-scale Boeing 727 in an era when CGI dominates lends credence to the choices made by the filmmakers to create a realistic scenario. Both the content in the "production" section and the photograph and its caption viewed together give a more fulsome description. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:39, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Unless the reader/viewer sees the fireball that was involved, the actual consequences of the lead character entering a stricken airliner is not evident. The descriptor of how the scene was shot gives a greater appreciation of the sequence. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:50, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

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