User talk:ImoutoCompAlex
February 2021
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Acroterion (talk) 17:57, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
ImoutoCompAlex (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I vow to not make any more personal attacks towards editors and I will delete my rant on the cusper discussion. My reason for losing my temper is that I have a lot of emotional investment in generations as I have lost a lot of close family/friends over the years so a being able to identify as the exact same generation as what cusper friends I still have left means the absolute world to me. As someone born in late 1991, I cannot stand the fact that this "scientifically" legitimizes the claim that someone born in 1984 is a core Millennial along with me (a literal 7 year difference) and that therefore this implies heavily I am more of the same cohort with a 1984 baby than a 1992 baby, which makes me irrationally angry. The lack of an objective source including 1991 as a cusper year also makes me feel angry depressed and alone and people will not take me seriously by how much this offends me. ImoutoCompAlex (talk) 04:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Perhaps you need to find a more suitable place to deal with your feelings and express them to an understanding and supportive audience. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 04:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- An unblock request that is chiefly devoted to self-justification isn't likely to succeed. I only blocked you for 48 hours initially, until I reviewed your editing history and found things like this [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]. I don't see any way that you have any business editing this project with that kind of conduct. Acroterion (talk) 04:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Alright so I'm reading the page now and it says here that I just need to show you through evidence that the block is no longer necessary because I understand what I am blocked for, I will not do it again, and I will make productive contributions. So try unblocking me for 48 hours as a litmus test to see if I will actually start making positive contributions and I will make other contributions towards the community and let that cusper page be as it is. You're the one with the power to simply re-block me if I lash out again so I don't see why this isn't a valid appeal.
ImoutoCompAlex (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I was wrong to lash out immaturely and from now on will maintain proper objective conduct within this community. I will also abandon disruptive edits to the wikipedia cusper page entirely and not dispute them anymore. I will edit other pages instead. I am very new to Wikipedia, very personally invested in generation-ology and did not read the rules. ImoutoCompAlex (talk) 04:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I'm not convinced that within a half hour you have seen the light and will change your ways. Agreeing to not edit the Cusper page is a start, but we will need to know what steps you will take to avoid making comments like the ones linked to by Acroterion. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 09:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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I want to have my username changed as this name is tied to an email account I use for professional work so this information indirectly makes me personally identifiable. Please unblock me so I can change my username then you may re-block if you wish.
- You can tell us what new username you want and we can rename you, if you wish. 331dot (talk) 09:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. Regarding my username, I would like my account to be renamed to ******* You seem like a good person who really cares about me and wants me to reform. I found your message very encouraging and outlined some additional steps I will talk to better my behavior in a subsequent post.
ImoutoCompAlex (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Hi again admins. I actually do appreciate the decline post from the last admin as he seemed to be encouraging me to reform. He (user 331dot) declined my last appeal on the grounds that I was not specific enough on outlining details to better my behavior and that he was not convinced that I had changed within merely half an hour. That's a valid criticism. Therefore, I will outline specific steps of a more detail-oriented plan to better my behavior going forward on this platform (I just joined Wikipedia 6 days ago). I plan to police my language within edits ensuring that only constructive and non-hostile language is used. I will also review my edits and edit titles and documentation to account for tone as well as language with the potential to be misinterpreted as hostile. I will only submit peer reviewed sources that are not self published when I make changes. I will try my best to be objective and not emotionally driven when I update pages. I will promote constructive team-oriented discussion within the talk pages for subjects. I will delete my past edits to talk pages that have been disruptive or contained obscene and destructive language. I will leave the cusper page alone but potentially build onto it should I find some other academic or peer reviewed sources worth adding. Of course I will consult with the other editors before doing so. Other than the steps I have outlined, I am not sure how to realistically prove to you that I have changed. Be forgiving in your expectations of me please. As someone who moderates and admins many online communities and has encountered hostile language directed at me, I have always taken steps as a moderator to "be forgiving" and understand that people lose themselves in the moment sometimes and act unreasonably. With this in mind, I myself often go out of my way to simply issue a temporary ban and a warning multiple times before escalating the matter to a permanent ban. Even then I have sometimes reversed bans if a person came back to me after a year and was still motivated to build up a community that needed passionate members. Going back to your case with me, there is no real way for me to prove to you beyond a reasonable doubt that I have changed other than you unblocking me from editing and observing what happens regarding my account going forward. You have my ip address and I'm on your radar now so there is little reason for me to write all this and lie to you. I hope that with these words you will reconsider your opinion of me. Regards.
Accept reason:
Per discussion below and a promise to avoid generational demographics as a topic. Acroterion (talk) 13:47, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- I take note of this IP edit [7], where you appear to have tried to log out and edit after making the unblock request above, using a vaiant on the "little brother" excuse. Acroterion (talk) 12:20, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
No that is not correct. That is legitimately my sibling who tried to create an account as well after he heard I was depressed about this. I don't know if you can see the mac address of the machines being used but he is on a different computer.
- If that is the case I would think they'd know whether you were their sister, or their cousin. Acroterion (talk) 12:39, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Me, my sister, brother and younger cousin are quarantined together. I work remotely from home and live with my parents. I was sad over dinner so I imagine one of them tried bypassing my block. I legitimately do not know. I just really want to come to a healthy compromise with you to get unblocked. I spent so much time pouring my heart out into this message I wrote. What else would you like to see from me?
Just let me know what you would like see from me to to get unblocked and I will gladly do it. At the very least I would like to open a dialogue with you. I'd be happy to accept a block for a week and then you can review my case and consider letting me back in.
- It's really not about punishment, it's about having assurance that you won't waste volunteer time if we restore your editing privileges. Please describe what other topics where you'd like to help the encyclopedia project if you are returned to editing status. There are about 6 million other articles where you can contribute, or 5.999 million if you avoid generational demogrqphics. Please remember that your thoughts and perceptions about a topic, no matter how personally invested you may be, are not valid reasons for changes to articles. If you are willing to commit to making sourced contributions, and to avoid drama, especially of the over-the-top kind that I linked to above, that's the kind of help we need. Acroterion (talk) 13:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you Acroterion for taking the time to open a dialogue and talk to me. It really means a lot to have a conversation. Yes, I plan to pivot my focus to other communities of interest. One in particular is Chinese social media and tech companies as I have family from China, am Bilingual and visit Chines websites often. I have a lot to contribute there. Other topics I can think of include history pages of Manga and Anime which I am familiar with as I moderate a lot of these communities online. I am not sure what the extent is of these that need updating, but I plan to visit several communities, review them and focus on that. Other than deleting my past rants and remarks on those generational pages, I don't intend to revisit generational communities as I don't believe it's good for my mental health. Regards.
- Thank you, that's the kind of help we need, and readers and writers of Chinese languages are valuable contributors. You don't need to revisit the past topics to delete, that's all in the past and will be further obscured with a name change. I will be happy to deal with those matters for you. I'm prepared to unblock, and you'll need to request a username change once that's done. Thank you for engaging with us. Acroterion (talk) 13:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- You can go here [8] to request a username change. Click the blue box and fill out the form. Acroterion (talk) 13:50, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
One more thing. Could you please delete or erase all my past comments on the generation pages? since you asked me not to do it, I would appreciate it if you would delete those comments I made so they cannot be traced back to this name.
- Since other editors tried to engage with you, that's not going to be possible. You may want to make a clean start with a new username, rather than renaming, if you don't want a connection to be seen. In any case, it's been collapsed and would not be easily findable. Acroterion (talk) 14:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Acroterion? Are you still there? Is there a way for me to undo my request at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalRenameRequest
I want to request a different name than the one I listed.
- Just go and edit your request. Acroterion (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm talking about the global name request page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalRenameRequest I am unable to edit it and want to cancel that request.
- That one's out of my experience, as it is a meta function covering more than the English Wikipedia. You can ask for a rename again, though, once it's happened. Acroterion (talk) 00:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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