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Your submission at Articles for creation: Thermal equation of state of solids (September 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Stuartyeates was:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This is an essay, it needs to be rewritten as an encyclopedoa article

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Stuartyeates (talk) 00:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Thermal equation of state of solids (November 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SunDawn was:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

The comment the reviewer left was:

The article obviously has merit, but the writing style such as "Based on the discussion above" or "for detail, please refer to the original paper" is not the correct tone for Wikipedia.

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 03:27, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Thermal equation of state of solids (November 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia.

This submission appears to be taken from link.springer.com/10.1007/s10765-022-03089-8. Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from elsewhere, unless it explicitly and verifiably has been released to the world under a suitably free and compatible copyright license or into the public domain and is written in an acceptable tone—this includes material that you own the copyright to. You should attribute the content of a draft to outside sources, using citations, but copying and pasting or closely paraphrasing sources is not acceptable. The entire draft should be written using your own words and structure.

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Ca ^{talk to me!} 10:00, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Thermal equation of state of solids has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Thermal equation of state of solids. Thanks! Ca ^{talk to me!} 10:06, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

After open the paper on Springer https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-2749229/v1, it say that it is licensed under a CC BY 4.0 License. The license is a non-copyleft free license, which is a permissive open source, open source license that guarantees the freedom to use, modify, and redistribute, while also permitting proprietary derivative works. Jyanjinyuan (talk) 02:32, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize—I made a mistake, I should have been more diligent on checking for permissions. Feel free to revert my deletions and resubmit for review. It shouldn't take too long since there are only 30ish articles currently submitted. Next time though, you should attribute the source so that it is clear that the article has wording from the source. Thanks, Ca ^{talk to me!} 11:25, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Dear Wikipedia editor,

Thank you for your time.

May I know the status of my submission? On Nov. 9th, your reply of "it shouldn't take too long since there are only 30ish articles currently submitted" gave me an impression it will be posted soon. Thanks

Best regards,

Jinyuan Jyanjinyuan (talk) 00:12, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to have been already reviewed and declined. Ca ^{talk to me!} 00:14, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The message on Nov. 8th showed that the Wikipedia declined it as there is a copyright issue, but on same day, i explained that there is no copyright issue, and the wikipedia replied me the Wikipedia "made a mistake"

Could you please let me know why it was declined?

Best,

Jinyuan Jyanjinyuan (talk) 00:27, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Graeme Bartlett, who declined the draft. Ca ^{talk to me!} 01:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I declined is due to the style of writing. The topic appears notable. But it does not seem to be written like an encyclopedia article. In fact it is hard to understand. If it was copied from part of a journal article it may partially explain that. The target audience for Wikipedia is year 12 educated person. There should not be use of abbreviations like "TEOS", or "it" when it is not clear what "it" is referring to. And your writings should not be a commentary on literature. You express pressure as a function of volume and temperature. Perhaps this is what your source says. (It is easier to think of volume as a function of pressure and temperature, so perhaps this needs explanation). Words like isochoric should be explained on first use (?constant volume?). Also my comment about missing internal reference from Thermal expansion model has not been addressed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:08, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Graeme Bartlett,

My draft has been rewritten and been revised by two of my friends. I resubmitted it on Dec. 5th. May I know if my draft was in the reviewing list. Thank you for your time.

Best regards,

Jinyuan Yan Jyanjinyuan (talk) 03:15, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Thermal equation of state of solids has been accepted

Thermal equation of state of solids, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:40, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thermal equation of state of solids

Thermal equation of state of solids

Hello, I Came across the following two articles while writing a short draft introducing the term "equation of state" in various phases. My question is: Does Thermal equation of state (TEOS) fall outside the general idea of equation of state(EOS), and therefore requires a separate page? Or is it because the second item is under process? Thank you very much. Ehud

1. Thermal equation of state of solids

Starting with:" The thermal equation of state is a mathematical expression of pressure, temperature, and, volume. The thermal equation of state for ideal gases is the ideal gas law, expressed as PV=nRT, while the thermal equation of state for solids is expressed as: P(V,T)=P(V,T_{0})+P_th (V,T)

Main contributor: Jinyuan Yan, edited by Praseodymium-141 version: 2023

2. Equation of state

Starting with: In physics and chemistry, an equation of state is a thermodynamic equation relating state variables, which describe the state of matter under a given set of physical conditions, such as pressure, volume, temperature, or internal energy.[1] Most modern equations of state are formulated in the Helmholtz free energy. Equations of state are useful in describing the properties of pure substances and mixtures in liquids, gases, and solid states as well as the state of matter in the interior of stars.

Oldest version: 2001 Sutskover (talk) 19:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Sutskover,

According to the definition, the state refers to any point of (P,V,T), So the term of "equation of state" and "thermal equation of state" are interchangeable. But, most of times, the "thermal equation of state" refers to the state at high temperature.

For solids, the equation of state at room temperature are well established. There are many models for the equation of state at high temperature, and the most common equation of state is commonly criticized.

For ideal gas, the thermal equation of state or equation of state is well established.

Hope this helps.

Best, Jyanjinyuan (talk) 21:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. May I consult with you through an Email that I have found in a paper of yours? Sutskover (talk) 08:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]