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Happy editing! Vanjagenije (talk) 23:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Talk:Demographics of Serbia#Unsourced changes

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 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Demographics of Serbia#Unsourced changes. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May 2020

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Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Camp Bondsteel, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 00:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

June 2020

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Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Economy of Serbia, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. KREOH (talk) 16:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your message on Economy of Serbia talk page

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Regarding this edit, what do you mean by "i was right" comment? Another user (Luka Djordjevic55) made those unsourced edits and you didn't even start editing that article until June 2nd. So, I'm wondering, what's your connection to Luka Djordjevic55? byteflush Talk 21:37, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response on my talk page. I don't see any restrictions placed on your old account, so it's probably a matter of forgotten password or something like that. You can request a password reset, but if you'd like to continue using this account instead, you should at least add a notice to your user page so that editors know it's the same person. Something along the lines of "I have used the [[User:Luka Djordjevic55|Luka Djordjevic55]] account in the past, but I can no longer log in. This is not a sock puppet." would probably be enough, but perhaps you should check with an admin (explain your situation to Vanjagenije maybe?).
English Wikipedia has rules against abusing multiple accounts. However, since you readily admitted that both accounts belong to you, I wouldn't consider it abuse. In any case, you should acknowledge the fact that you're the the same person as Luka Djordjevic55 on your own user page, for transparency. byteflush Talk 05:07, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It seems that you are also using 94.189.232.73 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and Ivandivjak (talk · contribs) to edit the article. While I'm not 100% sure about those, I see some patterns that suggest you're editing under that IP/account. I have assumed good faith so far, and I'm still not sure if those are your edits, but you have done nothing to address the concern mentioned above. I'm pinging Vanjagenije since I'm not too familiar with sockpuppet procedures. byteflush Talk 03:39, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
{{Checkuser needed}}. Can we chedk Ivandivjak to this account? There are indeed some similarities. Vanjagenije (talk) 08:30, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

94.189.232.73 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and Ivandivjak (talk · contribs) are not mine.KoNaRiA (talk · contribs)

@ST47: Indeed, accounts were not used abusively. KoNaRiA already revealed (above) that Luka Djordjevic55 was his previous account, and other two accounts have only two unrelated edits. My request was primarily to check the connection to Ivandivjak. Since that connection was not established, can you unblock this account? Vanjagenije (talk) 18:44, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah,i didn't vandalised, or did anything wrong.I was just un-log from Lukadjordjevic55 for some reason.Other accounts can stay blocked,because i can not log to them,but i would like if this could be un-blocked.User:Vanjagenije could you make an section in his/her Talk page?Because i'm blocked and can not do that.Also,At least give me blosk for 1 or 2 days,and not permanent block,because this is not abusing,vandalising,... — Preceding unsigned comment added by KoNaRiA (talk • contribs) 19:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Since I started this section, I think I might add my 2c. I also don't think it was overly abusive behavior (except for the attack account, which was, however, not used); perhaps my previous message was a bit harsh (when I read it again, it seems like I stopped assuming good faith). I didn't want to start an "official" SPI since it almost always leads to indef, just wanted to hear an admin's take on this. I'm sure this will be resolved for the benefit of the project, and I was only cautioning the editor that, if they used multiple accounts, it could lead to problems - unless they publicly come forward and admit so. They have done that for all confirmed accounts they actually edited from, so I think a warning would suffice. byteflush Talk 23:34, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I also think warning would be an most efficient option,but i am permanetly blocked.Could some of you leave him message on his talk page please?That would be helpfull.I would never make new account agaain,and i can't use any of those 3 accounts. comment added by KoNaRiA (talk

User:KREOH noob was indef blocked as an attack account. This account was evading that block. ST47 (talk) 23:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ST47: User:KREOH noob Isn't related to KREOH user on wikipedia,it's related to user on one game called KREOH.Also,i didn't use that account,so it's not abusive account.Can only that account stay blocked,for some reason(because people would think its related to user on wikipedia)?And this one not?I would never again make any new account.So,can you please un-block this account?I was alredy warned by comment added by byteflush KoNaRiA (talk
(edit conflict) Ooh, somehow I missed the argument that "KREOH noob isn't related to the wiki editor", the "little/big brother" thing, and I didn't read the SPI (I thought it was all covered in here already). So it was an autoblock because the attack account got blocked. While still assuming good faith, I think this would be better suited for a regular unblock request. KoNaRiA, read that page very well, from top to bottom, and give it a try, but not before you get a clear understanding on what to do, and what not to do when requesting an unblock. Don't rush it; submitting a half-baked unblock request will only lower your chances of future unblock. Read it, understand it. And then do that three more times. Same goes for writing the unblock request itself. byteflush Talk 00:14, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ST47: Oh, I missed that. You are right. @KoNaRiA: What you are saying is obviously false. You say that "KREOH noob isn't related to the wiki editor", and that you didn't used any of them abusively, but our edit filter shows that you were trying to vandalize KREOH userpage (very dirty vandalism). Vanjagenije (talk) 08:07, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Un-Block Request

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@ST47: I'm sorry and i totally understand why i am blocked.And i am not going to do that again.But i think warning would be an better option for now,and if i do that again,i would get blocked.Because,i didn't vandalised,...I realize i did wrong thing,but i would never do it again.I would edit some pages(like i did on this account and Lukadjordjevic55) on Wikipedia and make them updated,like i did in COVID-19 pandemic in Serbia.I promise i would never do anything like that again,and i would do same as i did on this account,make some pages updated.Other 3 accounts can stay blocked(for some reason),and especially User:KREOH noob.If i have another chance,i would not make any other account,i would just edit pages like COVID-19 pandemic in Serbia , Serbian Armed Forces , Economy of Serbia , Mini Schengen Zone ,... And make them updated every day (for COVID-19 pandemic in Serbia).I admit those accounts are mine.I would not use any account abusively,i would not use any of other 3 accounts,only this account.I would never use this or any other accounts(which i would not use) abusively,i didn't used any of them abusively,but i had abusive name on one of them,so that account,or every 3 can stay blocked,because i use only this account.I would never use this account abusively.And i am sorry for other 2 accounts.I didn't used any of those 2 accounts(** Leon200010 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) and ** KREOH noob (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)),and i am sorry for making them.I made ** Leon200010 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) and ** KREOH noob (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki),i made Leon200010 because i was un-log to my main account,then i made KREOH noob because i was un-log from other account.And i made this because i realized that KREON noob is an offensive name,that's why i didn't edited on that account.I would do same thing as here on my main account,if i could log to it.I would stay civilized editor,and never abuse.I can't log to Lukadjordjevic55,otherwise i would give my Un-Block Request on my first account.I made KREOH noob because i could not log to Leon200010,and i made this account because KREOH noob is really offensive name.And i admit that.I admit i did very wrong things,but i promise i would never do it again.I want to update some pages on Wikipedia,and never abuse,vandalise,...You can already see my edits on this,and all other accounts,i didn't did anything on KREOH noob and i did 2 small edits on Leon200010.Here and on Lukadjordjevic55 accounts i made many edits,on many pages,and updated them.I made one page,and i would continue to do edits on pages which aren't updated.I know i was in an discussion with KREOH,and he was right,i know that is really offensive account,that's why i didn't edited anything,and made a new account,KoNaRiA.He was right in that discussion,i admit.I admit to everything i did.This is my main account,because i can't log to Lukadjordjevic55.I know why i am banned,i know where i made mistake,or many mistakes.Now,when i know which mistakes i did,and there is a lot of them,i know what not to do.Thank you for opening my eyes.Then,i didn't realize what i did,know i do,and i would not do it again.Thank you for blocking me,because i didn't knew what i was doing,now i do.I Know why and where i should "work" on my account,my editing and on my knowledge of Wikipedia rules.In some way,i am a new editor,My first account,Lukadjordjevic55 was made in January 2020,i didn't even knew any of rules on Wikipedia,now i do.And i would follow that rules every single time.I admit to everything i did.KoNaRiA (talk
KoNaRiA, I'm trying to help you here, but you did not read my message entirely. Since I posted it to your talk page, only 24 minutes have passed until you made your "unblock request" (and still didn't use the template that's mentioned in the guide). When I wrote that you should read that article from top to bottom, three times (and don't skim it!), I wasn't kidding. I really meant it. You have to read it all the way from This is a guide to making unblock requests. to the final "See Also" section. And comprehend it. And then do that again. And again. Only then should you start drafting your unblock request.
  • You didn't use a proper template for the unblock req. (which isn't really a big deal - we're not a bureaucracy; however, it means uninvolved admins are less likely to read it).
  • As you're blocked for socking, you didn't ask for the master account (main, original, your first account) to be unblocked, but instead posted here.
  • You didn't clarify that reason for making the "KREOH noob" account. Please pay very close attention to honesty sections of GAB.
  • Blocks are not meant to be a punishment, but you refer to it as such.
I won't guide you through the process, though. This is a one-time act of kindness so you could properly appeal your block, as I believe that you could be a constructive editor in the future. However, you need to come clean and explain your actions, which includes unrealistic claims made on this talk page (hint: I'm talking about that supposed KREOH from an online game). Oh, and, forgot to mention - I'm not an admin; this is from one editor to another. byteflush Talk 02:33, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@KoNaRiA: How do you mean you did't used those accounts abusively? You attempted to make very dirty vandalism at KREOH userpage, but you were prevented by WP:Edit filter. Isn't that abusive? Vanjagenije (talk) 16:35, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Vanjagenije: Yes,that is very dirty vandalism,i admit.I'm really sorry for that,and i would not try to escape my fault and mistake.I would never even think of doing that again.KoNaRiA (talk 16:43, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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