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2014 Kunming attack

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Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Hi there - I saw that you reverted my edit because it was not notable. Do you think that the names should still be included for verification? TehPlaneFreak! talk 02:53, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I do not see how inclusion of the names affects verification. So far all available information indicates that this will probably be a one-time fame for the two lucky men. Whether they are known by name does not prove or disprove anything. Those really interested in their names can always follow links to read the references. If any future event make them notable, we put their names back then. Kxx (talk | contribs) 03:03, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

• Please see Talk:Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370#Details_of_groups_of_corporate_travelers. In reporting of plane crashes, groups of passengers are notable whether it's the French club students of TWA 800 or the Japanese college graduates of TK 981 or the Chinese high school students on the Asiana flight. The USA Today described one of the artists on MH 370 as a famous calligrapher. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:58, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

According to the Press Release: The last known position of MH370 before it disappeared off the radar was 065515 North (longitude) and 1033443 East (latitude).

This can be converted using [Coordinate conver]

• Decimal Degrees (WGS84)
• Latitude Longitude
• 6.5515 103.3443

• Degrees, Minutes & Seconds
• Latitude Longitude
• N6 33 05 E103 20 39

But you keep changing it to:

• Latitude Longitude
• 6.920833 103.578611

• Degrees, Minutes & Seconds
• Latitude Longitude
• N6 55 14 E103 34 42

IvarT (talk)

@IvarT: It is not immediately whether the coordinates were 6°55′15″N 103°34′43″E or 6.5515°N 103.3443°E. That is why I posted a question in the talk page and pinged you. Kxx (talk | contribs) 12:51, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

File:Mah370path labelled.png

What are the Chinese translations of the terms on the page (both simplified and traditional)?

• "Last Contact"
• "Origin Airport"
• "Intended Destination"
• Beijing is 北京, Kuala Lumpur is 吉隆坡

Also, how would you translate "Malaysia Airlines flight 370 last contact as well as origin and intended destination airports."?

If you have the info, the author of the original pic File:Mah370path labelled.png can make a version in Chinese Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 10:49, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Do not rely on me to be reliable with the translation as I am not familiar with aviation terminologies. But for your reference regardless: Origin Airport => 出发地 ("Airport" dropped), Intended Destination => 计划目的地. Last Contact is kinda tricky. 最后联系 is literal and concise but is kinda awkward because 最后 (last) sound more like "last in order". 最后一次通讯地点 (location of last communication/contact) is more natural but somewhat verbose. Kxx (talk | contribs) 11:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I'll double-check with a Chinese-speaking Wikipedian who is familiar with aviation terminologies WhisperToMe (talk) 12:05, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

"Last Contact" could be 失去联系的地点 (location where the contact was lost). It is used in zh:WP. Oda Mari (talk) 15:39, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm a native Chinese speaker. I have translated these keywords into Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese (in parentheses).

Origin - 起飞地 (起飛地)

Destination - 目的地 (目的地)

Point of Lost Contact - 失去联系处 (失去聯繫處)

Point of Last Contact - 最后联系处 (最後聯繫處)

Feel free to drop me a message if you need more help with translations. --Mark Chung (talk) 16:39, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Mark! I've posted at Commons:Commons:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Request_for_Chinese_versions_of_File:Mah370path_labelled.png - I also thank Oda Mari and Kxx! Hopefully, it'll be soon when we get the Chinese versions up WhisperToMe (talk) 09:21, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Translation is not exactly my expertise. Go ahead with your judgment. Kxx (talk | contribs) 19:49, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Can you create a new map with just the colored dots, and no labels? Putting that on commons may allow other language Wikipedian to make maps for their own wikipedias by pasting on labels themselves. Or they could choose to mention what the different color dots mean in a caption. (I would think the audience to this discussion won't know every language that has a version of the accident article) -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 05:08, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

@70.50.151.11: Check out the Commons link above. An unlabeled SVG has been uploaded by the original author. Kxx (talk | contribs) 05:11, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 10:10, 11 March 2014 (UTC)