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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ROSE Online

If you feel that failing to find any reliable sources on Google does not demonstrate a lack of competence with the search engine, then that's an obvious difference we have between us. However, it could be that your interpretation of what a reliable source is differs to mine. A possibility which I overlooked. Citing AGF and NPA though? Come on, get over it. There's certainly no bad faith involved, or instead of voting, I'd have speedily closed the nomination. That's how I work. - Hahnchen 04:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

In addition to this, I find it almost impossible that you failed to find reliable sources on Google, whilst claiming to be a competent user of the search engine. Maybe it's because you're not familiar with computer games, that could have been of detriment to your search. But just using the search string - "Rose online" review - brought up this link on the first page of results. - Hahnchen 04:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

A one paragraph listing in a directory is a WP:RS? I guess our interpretations of what makes a reliable source differs. Leuko 23:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Instead of taking a look with your eyes to see what I had actually linked to, you just waived over it. This is probably why you failed to spot any reliable sources on Google. Maybe you don't feel that PC Gamer is a reliable source, in that case, our RS interpretation varies widely. I somehow doubt you can convince me over your competence with search engines if you failed to find any reliable sources. My comment on the AFD was perfectly valid, your stated reason for the nomination, was not. - Hahnchen 00:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

To further smash you poor interpretations of RS, I see that when you nominated the article, it already contained sources from Famitsu. I seriously think I may have made a mistake in criticising your lack of skill with Google, because now I think the true problem is your lack of skill in interpreting RS. That is, if you seriously think Famitsu is not classified as a reliable source. - Hahnchen 00:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Alright, we'll agree to disagree on WP:RS, but that still doesn't give you the right to insult other editors. Please WP:AGF. Leuko 00:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

How to delete UHSA article?

Hi, I saw you put "please provide [WP:RS that article is factually incorrect" in the article. Could you tell me what does it mean and how should I request this article to be deleted? Thanks. DrGladwin 23:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Leuko, I'm here to make peace. Yes, I could provide WP:RS here, then someone else might provide more WP:RS contradicting my WP:RS. The edit wars will never end. I'm tired of refuting this article. I've had bumpy relations with admins here, including an old friend and famous UHSA critic Azskeptic. The UHSA students are upset, the admins are upset, everyone is upset, people are getting banned, etc. The best thing to do in such situations would be to delete the article - that's how I would work. What do you think? DrGladwin 23:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks like JzG has already brought the article to AfD, and you've found the appropriate place to comment on the article's deletion. I don't think the article should be deleted, and I'll add my comments to that effect to the AfD. Leuko 00:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

kurri kurri external link

Hi

I dont understand why the kurri kurri wikipedia entry can't have an external reference to it's official website, there are any number of other towns/regions entries in Wikipedia that have an external link to official websites??? Why is it ok for some and not for others?

thanks

Brendan Brooks - brendan@hyperweb.com.au

Hi. Sorry but when I looked at the website it did not seem to be an official government website - It seemed that it was a commercial website complete with ads, etc, which would be in violation of the WP:SPAM and WP:EL guidelines. Is this not the case? Leuko 03:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Nightlife in Stockholm

Hey, you suggested transwikiing to WikiTravel. I just wanted to point out that WikiTravel is pretty much the one place we can't transwiki to because of differences in licensing. --Wafulz 06:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I actually just saw that on the transwiki page, but per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Precedents, this type of information belongs there, not in WP. Leuko 06:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Concerning deletion of content from 'ATM'

In looking through the history of the subject page, the entry you removed has been previously removed by anonymous editors several times and subsequently re-instated. It is a correctly included entry on the ATM disambiguation page and it should remain on that page.

diff in question --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 04:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, being added randomly to the end like that made it appear as vandalism. But after looking at the page in more detail, I realize it's generally a mess and in no order whatsoever. In reference to the term itself, it appears to be a non-notable neogolism that doesn't have any WP:RS to support its inclusion in WP. Leuko 06:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I've cleaned up the ATM page a bit; there was an order ... most things were in 'proper' order already. Be a little slower on the delete trigger next time, please. If you are convinced that the 'ass to mouth' article is inappropriate for Wikipedia, it doesn't take much effort to nominate it for deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion). --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I guess it must be in "most common" order? Because I was looking at it alphabetically. In any case, I'll look at the article more closely before deciding to take it to AfD. Leuko 03:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

EMT article/NREMT

Please do not completely remove sections of pertinent information of articles. If you have a concern that something might not be neutral then enter into discussion how it can be improved, but simply eliminating entire sections is not proper editorship. I'll take my response either here or on my talk page. Bstone 19:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Neither is adding a section whose only purpose is to attack with unreferenced libelous statements. I've continued the discussion on the article's talk page. Leuko 19:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I kindly ask that before or after making edits to this section you notice it in the article's talk page. Twice now you haven't and it's becoming confusing. Thank you kindly for all your assistance. Bstone 20:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Umm, I am confused now... I am not aware of any policy or convention that states one must announce each edit on the article talk page. That would just become cumbersome. The whole purpose of a Wiki is to be WP:BOLD and edit it yourself. Leuko 21:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

poking my nose in where it might not be welcome ... A general comment: The wiki is a means to an end; not all wiki-mind philosophy works when building an encyclopedia. The point of WP:BOLD is to facilitate non-controversial revisions; the second an edit is contested, it becomes controversial; edits to some articles and article topics are almost always controversial, unfortunately, so WP:BOLD is a good guiding principle but must be set aside in the face of differences of opinion lest things devolve into edit warring. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, the edit in question was unreferenced defamatory POV material. I took my cue from WP:BLP and removed such information without a discussion. That is what I meant by referencing WP:BOLD. I am definitely not interested in starting an edit war. Leuko 03:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I am glad we were able to discuss and work together on improving the EMT article. I added some comments and would like to hear your opinion. Bstone 14:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Drayton Manor Theme Park

Hi i do not see why my external link : www.draytonmanorplus.co.uk, can not be added to the external link page on the Drayton Manor Theme Park site. It is in the content of Drayton Manor and provides a huge resource to is.

Adam —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adz1991 (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

Please see: WP:EL#Links_normally_to_be_avoided and WP:EL#Advertising_and_conflicts_of_interest. Since the link is made to a commercial site with advertising, and the link exists to promote the site, and you own the site, it should not be added by you. I would suggest discussing the link on the article talk page to see if a consensus of neutral WP editors feel that the benefit of adding the link outweighs the guidelines to the contrary. Leuko 23:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Help needed with UHSA talkpage

I'd like to modify some of my comments in UHSA's talkpage (some of my comments are inaccurate). How do I do that? The page is being closely monitored for vandalism. Thanks. DrGladwin 23:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't suggest outright deleting or modifying anything on the talk page. Either use strikethrough <s></s> or just add comments on why your position has changed adjacent to the previous comments. Leuko 00:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Will do that. Thanks again. DrGladwin 00:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Drayton Manor Page

Hey, i don't see why Drayton Manor Net, is allowed to keep there external link on the Drayton Manor Theme Park Page which claims to be the best unofficial website when this is a false claim, and Drayton Manor Plus is not allowed on there. ? Adam —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adz1991 (talk • contribs) 13:47, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

Mostly because I didn't see it. Thanks for letting me know, but Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. Leuko 15:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

O.k cheers for that

I feel that the Article should include many external links, to allow visiters to research futher into the subject, in this case drayton manor.

Karen Boyer

How is this article useful or not vanity?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Boyer

Based on things i've seen speedy deleted i think this qualifies?

Madrugada 18:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Umm, I am confused here. Why are you contacting me in regards to this article? Per the article's history, I don't think I've ever edited it. If you feel that it should be speedy-deleted, feel free to tag it with {{db-bio}}. Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. Leuko 00:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)