User talk:License2Kill/Archive1

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Blocked

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

--Pilotguy^{(roger that)} 03:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Why? He was reverting just as much as me. I was just reverting (and gave a reason) the the way it has been for months. Unban me License2Kill 06:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

That's not how it works, generally the argument is he was reverting just as much as me, block him too - but what was the revert war over? I missed this completely. KillerChihuahua^?!? 23:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

He kept taking out a sentence that's been there for months, and I got banned for putting it back? It's okay, I understand you got to protect the site. License2Kill 05:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Archive this, L2K - do you know how to archive? KillerChihuahua^?!? 12:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

No I don't. License2Kill 17:22, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page - let me know if you find it confusing. KillerChihuahua^?!? 17:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quik reply License2Kill 17:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I do find it confusing? Can you explain it? License2Kill 17:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Depends on whether you want to paste or move. I advise move. KillerChihuahua^?!? 17:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll go with move License2Kill 17:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Find or make the name of the page you are archiving to:
This is currently User talk:License2Kill/Archive1 - you can see this in the infobox code, and/or by simply clicking the 1 in the archives infobox. Don't edit that page (if you were going to paste, that's where you'd paste all this).
Move talk page to archive talk page
While on this page (User talk:License2Kill) click the move button at the top of your page. (Edit, History, Move). When the next page appears, you'll see two boxes - one is for the name to move TO, which is labeled "To new title" and one is Reason. In To new title, enter User talk:License2Kill/Archive1, in Reason, enter Archiving (don't bold the text, just enter it.) Click the "Move page" button. Now you're on your archive. Edit it, adding {{talkarchive}} to the top. Now your talk page is archived, and is replaced with a redirect to the archive (which automatically happens when you MOVE something.)
Remove redirect on talk page:
Click on My talk, and you'll hit the archive, but with one of those "redirect" notices at the top - it will say "Redirected from User talk:License2Kill", so click on that so you can remove the redirect. I suggest replacing it with {{subst:Usercomment}} so your page isn't completely empty. If you screw things up completely (as happens with moving and archiving) don't panic. Leave me a message on my talk page and I'll straighten it out, ok? These directions will work for the first two times you archive. After that, you'll also have to edit the infobox for a link to the archive. Trust me, it will all start making sense. ~~~~ ==Please use edit summaries== Thanks much - [[User:KillerChihuahua|KillerChihuahua]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|?!?]] 16:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC) == Covers in album chronologies == Please note that according to [[Wikipedia:Fair use criteria|Wikipedia fair use policy]] copyrighted material '''''must''' contribute '''significantly''' to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text) and must not serve a purely decorative purpose.'' Using fair use album covers in album chronologies is therefore inappropriate. [[User:Jogers|Jogers]] ([[User_talk:Jogers|talk]]) 14:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC) :They were removed from Illmatic article on several occasions [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Illmatic&diff=106217374&oldid=105928368] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Illmatic&diff=88770419&oldid=88722193] What is the purpose of these images if they are not decorative? [[User:Jogers|Jogers]] ([[User_talk:Jogers|talk]]) 20:25, 13 February 2007 (UTC) ::Licence2Kill, Jogers was correct to remove these images from the chronology. Please review [[Wikipedia:Fair use|Wikipedia's fair use policy]], which governs the use of all unfree images. Product covers can only be used as a part of critical commentary about the product itself. As such, we can not use an album's cover in an article about a different album. Please consider assisting Jogers in re-removing the images. Also, in the future, remember that every unfree image needs a separate [[WP:FURAT|fair use rationale]] for each article that it appears in to explain the reasons why the usage is legal, consistent with policy, and indispensable to the article. If you have any comments or questions, please reply here; we do not need to spread this conversation onto a third page. '''''×'''''[[User:Meegs|Meegs]] 11:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC) :::Wouldn't covers in chronology be the same as having them in a discography [[User:License2Kill|License2Kill]] 21:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC) ::::Discographies really should not contain album covers either. Though they do not contain critical commentary, some discographies may at least contain information or statistics about the album; single album articles with chronology links, however, usually contain no discussion about the other albums at all. Again, as there are at least 3 people involved in this conversation, if you need to, please reply here instead of my talk page. Regards '''''×'''''[[User:Meegs|Meegs]] 07:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC) Plenty of admins come across the discography sections daily and they don't see a problem with it, and I've scene at least two admins who have been editing the pages that contain pictures in their discography and they never had a problem with it [[User:License2Kill|License2Kill]] 08:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC) :This does not matter. Not all admins are familiar with all areas of policy, nor can they (or any editor) be expected to fix every problem that they come across. '''''×'''''[[User:Meegs|Meegs]] 09:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC) :Similarly, I'm not saying that ''you'' need to actively participate in removing images from chronologies (or discographies). You can work on improving the encyclopdia in any way that you like. What you need to not do is revert the actions of other editors who are trying to clean-up problems and enforce policy. I also continue to suggest that you restore Jogers's edits in order to save them the trouble. '''''×'''''[[User:Meegs|Meegs]] 09:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC) But if no admins have even expressed problems at the other pages, why this one? [[User:License2Kill|License2Kill]] 03:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC) :You're wrong: Editors — admin and non-admin — are cleaning-up violations of [[WP:FU|our fair use policy]] throughout the entire project. It is a huge problem that we are struggling to get and handle on. Most editors do not spend much time in the area because they would rather focus on other things. We're a volunteer project, and can only ask that people work on what they are willing. Understand that the editors that do chose to address the problem can only repair one article at a time. For every observer, there is first time encountering the process, and many of them make the exact claim that you are: "Why are you only targeting my favorite article?" In this case, Jogers has removed the extra-policy images from all of the album chronologies that they're aware of. If you know of any others that remain, I'm sure they would appreciate it if you told them about it. '''''×'''''[[User:Meegs|Meegs]] 06:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC) == tupac shakur in category activists? == What activism did he do? If he did any, please inform me of it as I've scanned the page and can't find any. Also, if he did, please use [[:Category:Hip hop activists]] instead of putting him in hip hop and activists.--[[User:Urthogie|Urthogie]] 21:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC) :I put him in hip hop activists, thanks.--[[User:Urthogie|Urthogie]] 03:26, 22 February 2007 (UTC) ==Hey== Just a shout to let you know I'm not dead, I'm just buried with other stuff. My talk page still works if you need anything, or have a question or anything. [[User:KillerChihuahua|KillerChihuahua]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|?!?]] 01:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC) == Tupac Fall 2007 Album == I couldn't help but see u made these comments on the Tupac Shakur Talk Page......... "No, there wasn't a confirmed list. There is just too many songs around to make a list here. '''The album was delayed to Fall 2007'''" "I don't have an exact number but there are a lot. Still well over 100, not even including the ones we don't know of. '''And yes, I was informed''' License2Kill 05:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)" Can u elaborate on these comments, there is a new Tupac Cd coming this year....and do u have a source........plz much a appreciated...and u have my msn.....[[User:Changes 04|Changes 04]] 07:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC) The album was going to come out in Q1 of 2007 but was delayed to November [[User:License2Kill|License2Kill]] 07:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) anymore info on this...and are u sure its CONFIRMED from a valid source....sorry to ask but there have been so many rumours regarding Pac releases...its hard to believe people when they dont have a source....any talks on how many unreleased tracks this time...[[User:Changes 04|Changes 04]] 07:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC) ==Tupac Redirect== Before we start a revert war...I wanna tell you that I restored my version of the Tupac disambig. There's other notable Tupac's alright, but in almost all cases when people think of 'Tupac,' they think of a rapper. Other articles have disambiguations with subjects as notable as the well-known use of the term (one example is [[beef]]; check the hip-hop version of that). What's the problem with doing the same here [[User:Indiawilliams|Indiawilliams]] 04:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC) ==B.I.G. question== Umm would you think that it is fair, as long as its on wikipedia guidelines, to put the "ranked as greatest rapper ever" on the B.I.G. article? I found sources and everything, but 2pac fans keep deleting it.---Dblockshorty Umm...the only Tupac albums that are universally considered masterpieces are All Eyez On Me and 7 Day Theory, from listening I've done. (Ive heard all of Tupac's living work except Srticly 4 My... and the only posthumous album i heard is Better Dayz, but the rest are, from all accounts, snoozers.) But that is beside the point...read The Feb '07 issue of the Source, the April '07 issue of XXL, the March issue of VIBE. They all have him as the greatest of all time. I used that issue of the Source as a source (no pun intended) but someone keeps on deleting it. Remember a while back when i felt that the "ranked as the greatest line" should be removed from Tupac's page? Well i realized that whether he is or is not is irrelevant, he has been ranked as such. So has B.I.G., almost nearly as much as Tupac. That's all. God Bless. --MartyMart. == Tupac's birth name == Please stop changing his birth name. His [http://www.2paclegacy.com/2pachome.asp official website] (click on the 2Pac) says that Tupac is his birth name, and unless you provide a more verifiable source, I'm going to revert it. Besides, other websites that state his birth name is the unnofficial one state that it's Lesane Parish, not Parish Lesane. -[[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 04:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC) :Yes, it has been discussed, but I believe there was no consensus. The 7 internet sources [[User:Jowan2005|Jowan2005]] cited are not nearly notable enough to be a verifiable source. Tupac's own official website says nothing about his "Crooks" identity, and the research I have done into the non-verifiabe websites is that the information seems to be based on a rumor about Afeni changing the name immediately following birth, but this appears to be false too. If this continues, I'm going to ask for a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]]. -[[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 22:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC) ::It's not an official book. It wasn't released by his family. And the story's still open. On the Amazon page, it says "with the cooperation of Tupac's family"—'''Not''' "released by Tupac's family as an official biography". Let's cut this rumor off here and now. -[[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 02:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC) :::[[Image:Stop_hand.svg|left|30px]] You are in danger of violating the [[Wikipedia:three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}| on [[:{{{1}}}]]}}. Please cease further reverts or you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing.  -[[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 05:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC) == RFC/discussion of article [[Tupac Shakur]] == Hello, [[User:License2Kill|License2Kill]]. As a prominent contributor to [[Tupac Shakur]], you may want to be aware that a [[WP:RFC|request for comments]] has been filed about it. The RFC can be found by the article's name in [[WP:RFC/ARTIC|this list]], and the actual discussion can be found on [[Talk:Tupac Shakur]], in case you wish to participate. Thank you for your contributions. -- [[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 06:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)  :What do you think of the compromise to include LPC as an alias? -[[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 01:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC) == why == why was my song list removed and why was my disses removed there all real y the fuck is the problem its all factuall == 3RR on [[The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory]] == [[Image:Stop_hand.svg|left|30px]] You are in danger of violating the [[Wikipedia:three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]{{{{{subst|}}}#if:The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory| on [[:The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory]]}}. Please cease further reverts or you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing.  You and [[Special:Contributions/MJukmix|MJukmix]] need to discuss it on the talk page. I'm not going to warn you again. -[[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 07:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC) :He is the one that is reverting a cited fact. [[User:License2Kill|License2Kill]] 02:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC) ::Yes, but it is still in violation of the 3RR. Would you like me to protect the page until you both can work it out on the talk page? -[[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 02:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC) ::I'll tell you what I told him: If either of you revert one more time, I will block you. Please use the talk page to discuss this issue. If it isn't solved by March 18 (UTC), I will protect the page. -[[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 02:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC) :::He's still reverting a cited fact just because he doesn't believe it. That would be like me removing the sentence that states Eminem has sold 70 million albums. It is sited so there is no reason to remove it [[User:License2Kill|License2Kill]] 02:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC) ::::Yes, but he seems to have reason to believe the cite is incorrect. Regardless, you both need to work it out on the talk page. Please stop logging out and using your ip address to re-add the content. It's still considered a violation of the 3RR, and as a result, I am blocking that ip from editing for the next 48 hours. -[[User:My/sig|Mysekurity]] 03:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC) [[Image:Octagon-warning.svg|left|30px]] '''You have been [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing''' for violating Wikipedia policy by engaging in an edit war without discussing it adequately.. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by replying here on your '''[[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|talk page]]''' by adding the text <nowiki>{{unblock|your reason here}}. You may also email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list instead, or mail unblock-en-l@mail.wikimedia.org. -Mysekurity 02:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

ok

ok ok but that is the bulk of them i got most of the list off other websites and plus i have heard all of them so far...... that list was not finished yet but thats nearly two thirds of them .. i dont no why u had to delete it u can at least help me with it would that not be better cause there is alot of people out there who wants to no what songs ar left that u can get ur hands on.... and you toke off the stuff on Disses i added evenn do there all correct and if you dont belive me listen to the songs ......... P.S i joined Wikipedia just to help out with the 2pac site dont ruin it on me please —Preceding unsigned comment added by TrueDaz (talk • contribs) 07:35, 16 March 2007

look

look mate get tat into ur head that is the bulk of them, i think people want to now wats still unreleased , not wats left but wats unreleased . alrite so just help me with it

March 2007

Please do not assume ownership of articles such as Tupac Shakur. If you aren't willing to allow your contributions to be edited extensively or be redistributed by others, please do not submit them. Thank you. —Ocatecir ^Talk 00:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I feel I have to continually tell you this. If you don't stop your belligerent behavior, I will block you again. -Mysekurity 21:48, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I would like to talk with you over e-mail or IRC. Your e-mail isn't set up with Wikipedia, but please feel free to e-mail me (my username @ gmail). Thank you. -Mysekurity 21:49, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

If you have Gmail or Google Talk, I am available via that, or I'm also (rarely) on AIM as mysekurity. -Mysekurity 03:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Can we please discuss this over e-mail first? I will be quite busy lately, and have little time for AIM... -Mysekurity 04:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice talking to you. -Mysekurity 04:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Now that isn't nice. If you have a problem with me, let me know. I've been more than willing to look at the book, save for the fact that Borders is closed when I am available to go. You have my word I'll check it out next week, when I'll be available. Don't work too hard, and try to get some sleep. -Mysekurity 04:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

But I haven't excluded any facts. I've put them in with the book as a citation, in addition to the alternative viewpoint in accordance with Wikipedia's neutrality policy. As I have said over and over, we do not have official confirmation from the family (despite what you say), and therefore this is unverifiable. I said it before, and I'll say it again. I'm quite busy this week, but you have my word I'll check out the book as soon as I can (and hell, if it looks good, I may even buy it). Happy editing, Mysekurity 04:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

April, 2007

Stop removing the disputable tag. If you do it again, I will not hesitate to block you. -Mysekurity 21:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

May, 2007

This has been going on for months. Stop changing the ref. Stop inserting facts that we've discussed shouldn't be inserted. You've been blocked 3 times already. I've warned you enough. Another edit war on Tupac or to any other article will get you blocked indefinitely. This is your last chance. -Mysekurity 02:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to All Eyez on Me

Your recent edit to All Eyez on Me (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // MartinBot 12:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Edit War

Stop taking out stuff people put in Tupac's article when they are cited by a reliable source. For example, tupac's pac's life albulm is his first posthomous albulm to go gold. This is a fact! Hysteria2424 15:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

No it's not. You have no idea what your talking about, it's not even Gold yet. License2Kill 17:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

LOL that is so funny, if the album goes gold, then there is still always possibility to go platinum, which is more than gold. So if you are saying that that (Pac's Life) album is his first to go gold than you can also assume that the first posthumous album "R U Still Down?" never went gold. Well that doesn't make sense if you think right? (Remember Me) --69.235.163.165 02:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Block

You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our neutral point of view policy will not be tolerated. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 12:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

XXL (magazine)

I noticed that you've edited on the XXL page recently. well, I've just tagged it as unreferenced and as containing original research. If you value the content of the page, please refer to it to provide references to it, otherwise I intend to reduce it to fully verifiable facts, which would bring the article to a stub.

--linca ^linca 07:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey can you give me some suggestions

Hey man I am just getting into rap and hip-hop and contributing to related articles. Who should be on my list of people to be listening to? Thanks man--Wayne Neptune 23:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

You don't own Hit 'Em Up

Please stop acting as if you own Hit 'Em Up and reverting cleanup tags. This behavior is disruptive and will be considered vandalism in the future. --Witchinghour 19:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Please AGF, Witchinghour - and no, good faith edits are never considered vandalism, so that's out. If you have a content dispute, dispute resolution is here. KillerChihuahua^?!? 19:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

L2K, I've taken a look at the tags, and for what its worth, I agree. There are no sources, and the article could use some copy-editing. Why do you object to them? KillerChihuahua^?!? 19:43, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of 2Pac reviews

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent contribution removed content from Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z.. Please be more careful when editing articles and do not remove content from Wikipedia without a good reason, which should be specified in the edit summary. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Please don't delete reviews you don't agree with — it violates neutrality. WP:ALBUM lists sources of additional reviews if you feel those currently included are not representative. However, deletion of reviews may be considered vandalism; continue to do this and you risk being blocked. / edgarde 20:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Please do not delete content from articles on Wikipedia, as you did to Me Against the World. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use Wikipedia:Sandbox for test edits. Thank you. Please don't revert war on this — it's harmful to the article and a disservice to readers. Anyone's disagreement (or lack of "respect", as you phrase it) with the source does not invalidate the source. Please consider adding new perspectives rather than deleting ones you disagree with. / edgarde 21:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

July 2007

Please stop. If you continue to blank out (or delete portions of) page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to Me Against the World, you will be blocked from editing. Is there any reason the review should be removed? Spellcast 20:51, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

August 2007

This is your last warning.
The next time you delete or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to Until the End of Time, you will be blocked from editing. Spellcast 19:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)