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July 2024

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Hello, I'm Discospinster. I noticed that you made a change to an article, William Vane, 1st Duke of Cleveland, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. ... discospinster talk 16:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
thank you for your message, I do believe you have made a mistake as I currently hold the dukedom title.. if you would like me to send the certificate I have proving this title I will. Lordbarnard (talk) 18:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A certificate wouldn't really prove anything. Please see this page on what constitutes a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes. AntiDionysius (talk) 11:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Under the uk law the certificate which is signed by the garter is more than enough… if you would like to see this I am more than happy to provide this. Lordbarnard (talk) 13:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The issue here isn't UK law, it's Wikipedia policy. AntiDionysius (talk) 13:07, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because we here on Wikipedia have no way of verifying if this certificate is legitimate. For all we know, you could have made it on Canva; thus you need to find an independent, reliable, secondary source. AntiDionysius (talk) 13:10, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the certificate has a reference number and ID which can be easily looked up and verified Lordbarnard (talk) 13:13, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If this information is verifiable in a database somewhere then the certificate isn't really necessary. Do you have a link to where this info can be found online? AntiDionysius (talk) 13:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately because of data protection there isn’t a direct link there is only a username and password to a online data base for members Lordbarnard (talk) 13:33, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, we're back to the problem of lack of verifiability. AntiDionysius (talk) 13:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. AntiDionysius (talk) 11:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]