User talk:Madchester/Archive09

Notification that I have placed a Wikiquette alerts on you. See the Wikiquette_alerts page. Thatswhatsup 19:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Block evasion clarification

Hi, could you clarify when exaclty user:Thatswhatsup evaded his block, I don't see the IP he uses [1] did any edits during the 24hrs, kind regards sbandrews (t) 13:43, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Galvatron and Skywarp

I removed the non-sources tag after adding several to each page. Was that not enough? user:mathewignash

RE: Editwar

With respect, I did discuss it on the talk page. And are agreeing what to put. Please remove your warning. Also I reverted one edit, where as other did a lot more. Please do not assume that because i'm an IP I go warring with people. Thanks --81.179.123.35 15:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a shame you can't respond about your action after I quiz you about it. --81.179.123.35 17:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please assume good faith, no personal attacks please. --Madchester 17:57, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you assume good faith too (again not just assuming I wouldn't be trying to help because I am an IP). I did in fact discuss it on the talk page. Please remove your uninformed and unreasoned warning from my talk page. --81.179.123.35 18:33, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to archive past comments on your talk page. Cheers. --Madchester 18:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, thanks for the infomation. --81.179.123.35 18:40, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The Gold Rush

I hate these image notifications, too. I have spotted an image that you may wish to "head off at the pass" to avoid another one. Back in 2005, you uploaded Image:TheGoldRush.jpg with the fair use claim that the film was made prior to 1923, so the film is public domain. This is incorrect as the film was made and released in 1925, which makes it still in copyright under US copyright law. I feel the image is still allowed because it is iconic if nothing else, but you may wish to update the fair use rationale for this image, if you have any desire to. 68.146.47.196 03:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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What are you talking about?

I have challenged you to actually show me evidence of me making a personal attack on anyone, but you sent me another warning to stop making attacks!!! WTF?

I want an apology on the talk page in question as you are maing accusations with no evidence to back them up - who do you think you are? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.167.213.128 (talk) 01:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"It is pretty obvious to anyone with any size brain that Colin McRae was killed in the crash." Is not a personal attack - it was not directed at anyone in particular, it was not directed at anyone at all. It is a phrase, a common phrase at that. It simply means that it does not take a genius to work it out.

Telling you to get the stick out of your ass may actually be a personal attack, but to be honest after your stupid warning you deserved it. So an apology will be acceptable and i will then drop it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.167.213.128 (talk) 01:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have actually just read the guidlines on personal attacks you so kindly send me the link for, now i am not a stupid man but i am worried i may be being stupid by admitting i cannot find anything at all in the guidelines that suggest i am guilty of making a personal attack, so what were you basing your assertions on in the first place? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.167.213.128 (talk) 01:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please, both of you, cool it. It doesn't help accusing others of making personal attacks, and it really doesn't help to then argue over it. I've reviewed the discussion and I didn't find anything worthy of the label "personal attack", so please, smooch and make up. --Cyde Weys 03:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The editor basically insulted other users with his comments and this goes against WP:NPA. There's no problem with critiquing the content, but mockingly questioning the intelligence of other editors is inappropriate. Nor is ignorance of Wiki-policy an excuse for such behaviour and incivility. --Madchester 04:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're taking his comments far too personally. You'd be best served by letting it slide than throwing around TLAs like NPA. NPA isn't about relentlessly making noise over one comment that's over and done with. Forget about it and move on. Wikipedia is not punishment. --Cyde Weys 05:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it's that particular editor that is taking the comments personally and dwelling on the issue. As an admin, I've had various situations where I've warned other editors about their personal attacks. Often they didn;r understand they were offending other users. They learned about their mistake and the respective policy... and moved on from there. A block would have been unjust, but warnings have been merited in this situation. --Madchester 14:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Madchester - seen as you are one for throwing around the link to the wiki page on personal attacks, i thought you would know this off by heart by now...

Responding to personal attacks
Initial options
Frequently, the best way to respond to an isolated personal attack is not to respond at all. Wikipedia and its debates can become stressful for some editors, who may occasionally overreact. Additionally, Wikipedia discussions are in a text-only medium that conveys nuances and emotions poorly; this can easily lead to misunderstanding. While personal attacks are not excused because of these factors, editors are encouraged to disregard angry and ill-mannered postings of others when it is reasonable to do so, and to continue to focus their efforts on improving and developing the encyclopedia.
If you feel that a response is necessary and desirable, you should leave a polite message on the other user's talk page. Do not respond on a talk page of an article; this tends to escalate matters. Likewise, it is important to avoid becoming hostile and confrontational yourself, even in the face of abuse. Although templates have been used at times for this purpose, a customized message relating to the specific situation is often better received. When possible, try to find compromise or common ground regarding the underlying issues of content, rather than argue about behavior.
Personal attacks do not include civil language used to describe an editor's actions, and when made without involving their personal character, should not be construed as personal attacks, for instance, stating "Your statement is a personal attack..." is not itself a personal attack.

What is your excuse for not following this? 58.167.213.128 13:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have made a personal attack on me!!!

According to the guidlines - its ironic that i only read this becasue you sent me a link to the page...

Accusing someone without justification of making personal attacks is also considered a form of personal attack

You have made a personal attack on me, so please stop or you will be blocked.58.167.213.128 14:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Watch who you're calling a vandal, amigo Eulalie Écho 05:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weird Fishes/Arpeggi Merge

WP:MM suggests once you propose a merge you should begin the discussion. Since it was tagged for 5 days with no discussion, and the article is now adequately sourced to meet WP:N, I would conclude there is no interest in a merge. Does that sound fair to you? Relaxing 13:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To reiterate: the burden is on you to start the discussion. Did you notice the numerous reputable sources covering the work? Cheers. Relaxing 15:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about? "Policy does not prohibit users from removing comments from their own talk pages." If I accidentally hit someone else's TP, let me know. Thanks. Relaxing 17:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please familiarize yourself with the relevant policies before posting to my talk page again. Relaxing 17:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DRC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Relaxing (talk • contribs)

I strongly recommend archiving your past talk page comments per WP:TPG. Per Wikipedia:Wikiquette, comments should not be removed unless you have permission from that editor. It reflects poorly on an editor when comments are removed from a talk page. Other than blatant vandalism or spam, you shouldn't be removing comments outright, without archiving.

I may not agree with all the talk page comments on my page, but I've never deleted any of them. The talk page is a record of your communication as a Wikipedian, and thus a complete and archived talk page reflects your history properly in accordance with talk page guidelines. Thanks. --Madchester 17:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Madchester. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding violation of WP:3RR, WP:HAR. You are free to comment at the discussion, but please remember to keep your comments within the bounds of the civility and "no personal attack" policies. Thank you.

Just a comment based on that AN/I post: WP:TPG and WP:EQ are discussing article talk pages, not user talk pages. The relevant guidelines regarding user talk pages can be found here. Regards, —bbatsell ¿? ✍ 19:03, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's simple: do not remove other editors' comments, unless A) you have their permission or B) it's spam or vandalism. Otherwise you can archive those comments. It's one of the first things I learned as Wiki-newb: never delete other editors' comments, even those on your talk page. I remember being informed by another editor and it's something I've followed closely ever since.

You don't have to agree with everything left on your talk page, but it's a record of your communication, and thus, you shouldn't be removing comments as it reflects poorly on your reputation. It's rather underhanded to be deleting comments that you don't like, while keeping those that praise or thank you. --Madchester 00:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, WP:USER#Removal of comments, warnings indicates that "policy does not prohibit users from removing comments from their own talk pages." --Kralizec! (talk) 01:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a recent change in policy; one of my first actions on Wikipedia was to remove a welcome message or comment, and I was kindly told my another editor to leave it on my talk page, as a record of communication. Also, I've seen countless example of vandals removing user talk page warnings, only to be blocked. Regardless, I'm just going to follow up on that on a related RFC. --Madchester 01:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If by "recently" you mean 249 days ago [2], then yes. :-) Prior to that, it was added to the offical WP:VAN policy at least 649 days ago [3]. --Kralizec! (talk) 02:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That refers to vandalism of a user talk page. Users have always been allowed to remove user talk page vandalism without recourse.

An individual is not allowed to edit such comments to their liking (due to WP:VAND), yet allowed to hide unfavorable comments? That's a pretty big loophole that allows editors to work around existing policies; that's not editing with good faith or civility. --Madchester 02:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject user warnings, I would prefer that warnings have to stay (I also do not care for the WP:CAIN essay). However consensus is that people can remove -at will- whatever they like from their own talk pages. Personally, I do not like it, but that has been part of official Wikipedia policy for over a year and a half. --Kralizec! (talk) 12:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Reply

Hello, the RFC is here. Thanks, and happy editing! Cheers,Je t Lover (Report a mistake) 01:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: WP:3RR request

I think you should have left a 3RR warning on the editor's talk page before placing a 3RR request on the Admin noticeboard. Normally I feel a block should be warranted, but not before the user had been warned (again). --Madchester 01:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

My understanding of the rule is that the warning is only required if there is reason to believe that the user is unaware of the 3RR policy. Since he has been blocked before, this is not the case. Dlong 02:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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