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Your submission at Articles for creation: RB Kelly (October 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Spinster300 was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

We need more reliable sources about the subject, not just reviews of the subject's work. Please add those in before submitting again. Kind regards, Spinster300 (talk) 18:34, 21 October 2023 (UTC).[reply]

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Spinster300 (talk) 18:34, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: RB Kelly (November 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I added some additional sources (see footnotes 4,8,9). Her book Edge of Heaven is certainly notable so I strongly suggest an article about the book but almost all the other sources are primary so cannot be used to establish notability for her.

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S0091 (talk) 16:48, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:RB Kelly has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:RB Kelly. Thanks! ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:26, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: RB Kelly has been accepted

RB Kelly, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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asilvering (talk) 19:41, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of authors

Hi there, you were given a misleading comment by one of your previous AfC reviewers - we actually don't need extensive, non-interview coverage on authors, who are generally considered to be notable and worthy of a standalone article if they have multiple notable books. The easiest rule of thumb is that you need to find 2 books with 2 reviews each. The reviews need to be WP:RS ones (so a self-hosted blog won't count), but no bio coverage is necessary. If you have an author who has written academic nonfiction, it's always good to go looking for academic reviews of their books, which tend to be pretty in-depth and are basically always WP:RS. I easily found some for RB Kelly and accepted it. -- asilvering (talk) 19:51, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Asilvering how did you find the sources about On the Brink? I searched (including just using her name) but could not find anything (Google, ProQuest and JSTOR).

Mareotis, I still suggest an article about Edge of Heaven. It's an easy pass. S0091 (talk) 20:23, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@S0091 I didn't add any sources about On the Brink! The ones I added were for Mark Antony and Popular Culture. -- asilvering (talk) 20:46, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I agree, Edge of Heaven is an easy pass. But imo it's better to expand the biography article with it first, then spin it out into a separate Edge of Heaven article if it gets too big. Right now she's only got the three books so it's easy to cover it all in one place without it getting overwhelming. -- asilvering (talk) 20:48, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Asilvering Hmm, not sure now why I thought you had lol. Personally, I would have started with the book(s) first then backed into the author if enough bio sources existed but it's chicken/egg and can it see it either way. Sorry to take up your talk page Mareotis! Congrats on your first article! It's not an easy feat. S0091 (talk) 21:10, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much to you both! I'm sorry to have got so much wrong to begin with but I'm absolutely stoked to have got there in the end :-) Mareotis (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to WikiProject Women in Red

Hello Mareotis! Thank you for your contributions to articles related to women. I would like to invite you to become a part of WikiProject Women in Red, a WikiProject focused on creating content regarding women's biographies, women's works, and women's issues and assisting contributors who run into difficulties. If you wish to participate, please visit our WikiProject Women in Red page and click on the Join Women in Red button on the right. Thanks! asilvering (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

asilvering (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]