User talk:Michele.Gavazzeni

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Hello, I'm Viewmont Viking. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.--VViking_TalkEdits 14:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not fair, in that page there are the descriptions of all our competitors why i cannot post mine? I simply put ours in a neutral and natural prospective, what was promotional in the text below:

"The Arianna ballastless track system consists of prestressed concrete slabs connected to infrastructures (e.g., tunnel floors, bridge decks, embankments, etc.) by means of a cementitious mortar and shear connectors. The Arianna® system was formerly known as the IPA system. It was developed in Italy, with the first installation taking place in Bergamo in 1984. The system has been used in various projects, totaling 42.000 slabs, particularly in very long tunnels and on bridges."

is it the "®" that create confusion? 2.116.236.210 (talk) 14:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 2024

Your recent bold edit was reverted. Let us now discuss this on the talk page. This procedure is known as the BRD cycle. Please don't edit war by reinstating the edit. Let's see if we can find a consensus or request a third opinion if we remain in disagreement. VViking_TalkEdits 15:03, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just want to add our company system, like our competitors have done. Either you include our system or delete all the others Bogl, Rheda, IVEs they are all commercial product that using wikipedia to promote their system.

The text that i want to add is:

"The Arianna® ballastless track system consists of prestressed concrete slabs connected to infrastructures (e.g., tunnel floors, bridge decks, embankments, etc.) by means of a cementitious mortar and shear connectors. The Arianna® system was formerly known as the IPA^[10] system. It was developed in Italy, with the first installation taking place in Bergamo in 1984^[10]. The system has been used in various projects, totaling 42.000 slabs, particularly in very long tunnels and on bridges."

and is a well known system, you can check it even in the references that you have listed in the end of the page. For example

the nr. 10 Michas, Georgios (2012).

I request a third opinion Michele.Gavazzeni (talk) 15:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Undisclosed paid editing

Hello Michele.Gavazzeni. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Ballastless track, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Michele.Gavazzeni. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Michele.Gavazzeni|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:38, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This must be some AI generated reply as it is not addressing the topic of discussion.

I will not edit anything but i wish to be contacted by a real human responsable for this section and please contact me by email Michele.Gavazzeni (talk) 15:52, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That was a templated message, designed to save time (which you can read here, if you wish: {{uw-paid1}}). That does nothing to negate the concern over undisclosed paid editing, which takes priority over content disputes.

There is no reason to communicate via email. Wikipedia is designed to work based upon public dialog. Communication with other editors should be done openly on talk pages, unless it is a matter regarding sensitive personal information.

Just so you're aware, Wikipedia editors (myself included) are unpaid volunteers. Wikipedia does not employ teams of editors, we are all helping out in our spare time. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Drm310 thank you very much for the clarification and apologies for the unnecessary confusion I might have created, moreover please be aware that I appreciate much what you are doing and also the worldwide community is appreciating your efforts. With that being said, going back to the topic i just want to keep it super simple. There is this page: Ballastless track, in the section "Construction types" there is a list of systems that have been used and the company who installed them. Nevertheless the list is not complete and I thought it would be useful for the reader to include another system that is, by the way, already referenciated in the references of that page (see for example reference nr. 10 pag. 47-48). The text that i wish to add is the following:

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Arianna® (WEGH Group)

The Arianna® ballastless track system consists of prestressed concrete slabs connected to infrastructures (e.g., tunnel floors, bridge decks, embankments, etc.) by means of a cementitious mortar and shear connectors. The Arianna® system was formerly known as the IPA system. It was developed in Italy, with the first installation taking place in Bergamo in 1984. The system has been used in various projects, totaling 42.000 slabs, particularly in very long tunnels and on bridges.

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Bringing as reference of IPA and the year 1984 from the reference nr. 10 pag. 47-48.

Please let me know if it is ok, and if not what modification whould be made. Regards

MIchele Michele.Gavazzeni (talk) 11:48, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Michele.Gavazzeni: Proposed content changes should be discussed on the article's talk page - in this case, Talk:Ballastless track. It should come in the form of an edit request, for which there is a helpful edit request tool to simplify the process.

I can help you but in exchange, you must comply with the paid editing disclosure policy by disclosing your employment on your userpage (User:Michele.Gavazzeni). Or, if you authorize me, I can place it there for you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mrm310, apologies for late reply. Yes absolutely, I am an Employee for WEGH Group, i work in the design team and although they don't specifically pay me for making "paid Editing" on wikipedia, I guess that it could be considered like it. I have no problem, so I authorize you in this regard. Right now I am in vacation, so i will do the edit request as you suggested as soon as I can. Of course your help on that is very much appreciated Michele.Gavazzeni (talk) 11:27, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]