User talk:NetBSDuser

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Again, welcome! JarrahTree 12:39, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

December 2019

Hello, I'm Doug Weller. I noticed that you recently removed content from Jihad without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. If you have a reliable source that disagrees with this source then add it, otherwise you shouldn't delete it just because you think it's wrong, that's original research. Doug Weller talk 17:59, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller: I explained it as far as I remember and I provided a counter-example. Unfortunately I don't have access to a English language university library to find a book and cite a line where it mentions the victory of Mahdists over Great Britain, but it is clearly a fact. Also the mentioned Sokoto Caliphate made a state that lasted about a century with the caliphate still in place de jure. These movements have achieved what they sought. Should have they existed infinitely for them to be considered victorious? Calling these failures is just like filling the result section of the template in October Revolution with "Failed, ended in Soviet Collapse" and citing one of the many many anti-communist works calling it the Bolshevik revolution failure from beginning as a source. Calling these movements failures because the states failed decades later is just as nonsensical. It just makes the source biased against early Jihadism by depicting it as a complete failure despite putative historical facts, not my removal of the statement an original research. NetBSDuser (talk) 18:54, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's frustrating and I've been there too. But WP:VERIFY is core policy. Doug Weller talk 19:47, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]