User talk:Noodlenicky
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Hi Noodlenicky, I reverted your edits to Namibia and to Tourism in Namibia. The topic is extensively covered at Seal hunting and mentioned in the Cape Cross article. The boycott drive did not have any impact so far, and for as long as this is the case, seal culling does not have anything to do with tourism. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Best regards, Pgallert (talk) 20:13, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]Dear Pgallert,
I can see that seal culling should perhaps not feature in the main article on Namibia. However, I strongly feel that it should at least be mentioned in the article on Tourism in Namibia, because many tourists go there to see the seals, and many people don't know about the 'culling'. If no one knows about it, how will they ever reach the article on seal 'hunting', which talks about Namibia, seeing as there is no link to it from the Tourism in Namibia page? For the sake of the issue at hand, and the cruelty and barbarism of the practice, please at least put in a link as described. The only reason I can think of for not doing this is out of support for the 'cull' :/ especially as I have just noticed that you happen to live in Windhoek. Please allow someone from outside your country to make these decisions in cases where you may be biased. (I too am biased, because of the hideous cruelty, but I don't live there.) Please see Lack of neutrality (on my part)
- Dear Noodlenicky, I noticed your very short conversation with Ohnoitsjamie on his talk page, and I sense that you are frustrated. I take your communication attempt as a genuine request for explanation and am thus willing to further elaborate--feel free to tell me if you don't want to discuss this with me, and I will back off.
- To start with, the reason why your edits have been reverted as inappropriate has much to do with your explicit statement that you want to make tourists aware of it. That's advocating, or pushing, a point of view, and should not happen on Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not want to make anyone aware of anything, interested readers are expected to look up the topic by entering "seal" or "seal culling" "or "seal hunting", and they will be successful.
- I agree with you that there should be a short and recognisable sequence of clicks from the main article Namibia to the coverage of the topic, seal hunting. After all, Namibia is one of only five countries culling seals, so this is a somewhat important property of the country. As I have pointed out before, Tourism in Namibia is not the proper place to make this connection, because there is currently no established link between tourism and culling. To link the topic via Economy of Namibia might not be feasible either because of the really, really minimal contribution of seal hides to Namibia's economy.
- There are several options to feature seal culling in connection with Namibia. Unfortunately they all involve writing a new article--I do not write this to scare you off, the situation is just that many articles that exist about South Africa, or Germany, or New Zealand, have not been written yet for Namibia. Possible candidates are maybe Animal rights movement in Namibia, Seal hunting in Namibia, Biodiversity of Namibia, Fishing industry in Namibia,... I'm sure there are more candidates. If you are willing to invest time in writing one of those I offer to help you with that task.
- In closing, let me make one remark about conflict of interest because I think you are misunderstanding this guideline. Please don't take it personally. The fact that I am living in Namibia does not automatically make me biased towards all Namibian content. My business affiliation makes me biased towards certain topics, Namibian and non-Namibian, my job portfolio makes me biased (and indeed I am hardly ever editing in my area of professional expertise), maybe even my heritage does, but not just the place I live at. On the other hand, you are an animal rights activist and as such biased in closely related topics, of which seal hunting is one. Speaking from experience, your fun level as Wikipedia editor will rise quite a bit if you avoid those topics altogether. I noticed you did not edit anymore after our disagreement, and I think you should reconsider. Contributing to Wikipedia can be very rewarding, particularly outside the topics closest to your heart.
- If you have any questions, please drop me a line (here or on my talk page). Pgallert (talk) 23:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, you may be blocked from editing. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:06, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
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