User talk:OttawaWiki

October 2011

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, but at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Irdeto Content Management, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted (undone) by ClueBot NG.

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The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Irdeto Content Management was changed by OttawaWiki (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.89094 on 2011-10-20T13:23:33+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 13:23, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Repost of Irdeto

A tag has been placed on Irdeto requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia, because it appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion process. If you can indicate how it is different from the previously posted material, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's discussion directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. If you believe the original discussion was unjustified, please contact the administrator who deleted the page or use deletion review instead recreating the page. Thank you. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 18:49, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Irdeto

At your request, I removed the proposed deletion from the Irdeto article.

There are still problems with the language (referring to products as solutions, for example) and most of the references seem to be to press releases or coverage of routine events in low-readership tech industry publications. It's a subsidiary of another business, and doesn't seem to have had all that significant an effect on history, technology, or culture. I will probably move forward with some kind of deletion process soon, but if you think you can fix it go ahead. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 21:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this is a chemical business. Referring to anything it sells, whether a product or a service, as a "solution" is both vague and a neutrality violation. You should say what it is exactly that they are selling. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 02:05, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote: If you read their website and any of the third-party sources used in this article they don't provide products they provide solutions to prevent piracy. A solution is not just a chemical it is also an action or process of solving a problem, which is what they do.

This is exactly why I believe that using the word "solution" to describe a product or service is an automatic neutrality violation, does not belong in an encyclopedia, and makes the article read like advertising. If they want an encyclopedia article that badly, we have to move past their self-generated material towards what it actually is and does. Their internal materials may call things "solutions", but that's because that's their own publicity material. It has a built in positive bias. Use "product" if it's a product, "service" if it's a service, and they "sell" them rather than "provide" them, and the article will achieve better neutrality. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 19:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about taking a couple days to get back to you; been preoccupied elsewhere. I still think the article has neutrality and advertising issues ("global", &c.; most of the column space is a product list), but to be perfectly honest, in adding and removing tags I have no particular special privilege or power here. If you think they are unwarranted you may remove them yourself. This won't guarantee that someone else won't add them back. (It won't even guarantee that I won't, but I won't edit war over them either.) You might want to consider whether this business might be better off handled with a redirect and a paragraph or so in Naspers, the parent company. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 15:17, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Irdeto

Hello OttawaWiki,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Irdeto for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Enseignanteparis (talk) 16:50, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]