User talk:Punungwe

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Hello Punungwe! I am an amateur geographer who is very interested in the possible quadripoint between Botswana, Namibia, Zambia and Zimbabwe. I would like to learn where you have the information from that these four countries meet in one single point. Jakro64 (talk) 20:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello again. Thank you very much for your answer posted on my profile! Jakro64 (talk) 15:07, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


Hello. First of all, if you have something to say to me, please do so on the right page instead of on my user page. It is not true that the source confirms your number: It lists Shona, Ndau, and Manyika alongside five other varieties. Summing some varieties but not others listed on the same level by a source is original research and must be avoided. Being a native speaker is irrelevant, only sources are. If you can find a proper source backing up your claim of Ndau and Manyika being considered part of Shona, then you can add the number, embedded in the right wording and alongside Ethnologue's value. --JorisvS (talk) 20:32, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I am not a linguistic researcher, but I definitely know my language, my culture and my people much better than you do. Your claim that Manyika and Ndau are not part of Shona contradicts every text-book, that I have studied all the way tpsecondary school. Besides being a native Shona speaker I have studied Shona up to GCE Ordinary Level, and you know what, there is only one Shona examination right across the country . Besides that I am an ethnic Manyika and I am surprised that you are insisting that I am not a Shona speaker. Since you claim to the expert, can you tell me who is Shona. Do you even know where the word Shona comes from. Mind you all of us people now called Shona today did not call ourselves Shona just three generations back. Do you even know what the difference between say Zezuru and Manyika is amounts to. I can tell a Zezuru speaker apart from a Manyika speaker the moment they speak their first word even if they are speaking exactly the same word.
In academic terms I am to you what is called a raw source. Instead of trying to educate me on a system and language that I was born into, raised in you should be seeking to learn the intricacies from me. Manyika and Ndau are two of the five dialects of Shona the other three being Zezuru, Korekore and Karanga. Please don't tell me the authors of all Shona textbooks are wrong.
Mind you some of the names listed on Ethnologue are mere European mispronunciations of Shona names or Shona words spelt using Nguni syllables (Zulu, Xhosa, Swati, Ndebele). For examble Bazezuru should be vaZezuru. No such word as Bazezuru exists in any of the Shona dialects including Zezuru itself. I can easily pick up such inconsistencies. You can't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Punungwe (talkcontribs) 21:20, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
It simply doesn't matter who you are or what you personally know (or who I am or what I know (or don't know, I don't claim to be an expert), for that matter). Wikipedia relies on reliable written sources, so others can verify claims. Please, read the page I linked. And if what you say is true (and I have no reason to think you're lying), then finding a proper source wouldn't be that hard. This is simply Wikipedia policy, no hard feelings. --JorisvS (talk) 21:48, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
I've rephrased the paragraph to better reflect the sources currently available. I have kept what you have said about Manyika and Ndau. Because this is not currently stated by any of the sources on the page, I have tagged it with a citation-needed tag. What you could do is replace this with a new reliable source that supports the statement that is currently tagged. Thank you in advance. --JorisvS (talk) 10:49, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mufa’khathat[edit]

Hello Punungwe,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Mufa’khathat for deletion, because it seems to be vandalism or a hoax.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Puffin Let's talk! 20:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Not a single one of the "sources" you put on the article's talk page even come close to meeting WP:RS. While the term may be legitimate, I can't allow what seems to be any obvious attack page to remain on Wikipedia absent very clear, strong, reliable sources. I recommend drafting the article off wiki (in a word processing program), getting reliable sources (please review WP:RS), and, if you have enough, consider recreating the article; I'd be willing to review it at that point. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:22, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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