User talk:Rainysongs

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Speedy deletion nomination of Pete Warner

A tag has been placed on Pete Warner requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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December 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a {{hangon}} tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. ╟─Treasury Tag►hemicycle─╢ 08:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Rainy Davis. While objective prose about products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Thank you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This account, Rainysongs, has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia, because your username does not meet our username policy.

Your username is the only reason for this block. You are welcome to choose a new username (see below).

A username should not be promotional, related to a "real-world" group or organization, misleading, offensive, or disruptive. Also, usernames may not end in the word "bot" unless the account is an approved bot account.

Please choose a new account name that meets our policy guidelines. However, do not create a new account if you wish to credit your existing contributions to a new name through a username change. To request a username change:

Add {{unblock-un|your new username here}} below. You should be able to edit this talk page even though you are blocked. If not, you may wish to contact the blocking administrator by clicking on "E-mail this user" on their talk page.
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If you feel that you were blocked in error, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.

Daniel Case (talk) 16:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your username may be the only reason for this block, but I just want to again caution you that any further edits under a different username that continue to violate our policy against WP:PROMOTION may result in another block, not for your username. thank you, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Rainysongs (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Rainy Songs (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Decline reason:

That username would have the same problem. It would also be helpful if you could respond personally in a way that shows that you understand you won't be writing about your own organization.— FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:14, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If I may, I think it's now patently clear that that's what this user is solely here to do: promote Rainy Davis, Pete Warner and god knows what else in a completely shameless and egregious fashion. FYI, this editor appears to be currently editing as an IP on Pete Warner. The language and mis-formatting are identical. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:20, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for deletion nomination of Pete Warner

I have nominated Pete Warner, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pete Warner. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:43, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Rainy Davis

An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Rainy Davis. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rainy Davis. Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate.

Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Rainysongs (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

MiamiMusic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Decline reason:

The new name is OK, but it seems likely you will continue to make promotional edits. You have already evaded your block using an IP on Pete Warner. Why should we expect that you would follow Wikipedia policies if you are allowed to resume editing? So far you have a perfect record of non-compliance. EdJohnston (talk) 06:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Verify Pete Warner credibility: Google Serach / http://www.google.com/search?q=mariah+carey%2C+pete+warner+&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADFA_en

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADFA_en&q=mariah+carey,+pete+warner,++rainy+davis&start=10&sa=N

http://www.urbannetwork.com/cms/index.php?news=1104

Im not sure why a search would be done to establish credibility for Pete Warner targeting a search to "search, news, books, scholar, images" when 1. It is clearly related to music & entertainment not golf. 2. And then considering that there may be more than one person or persons with the same name.

[edit] Pete Warner Pete Warner (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log • AfD statistics) (Find sources: "Pete Warner" — search, news, books, scholar, images ) This article was created by a person with a conflict of interest, and although it makes claims to notability, I wasn't able to verify this person's notability with my own search, and the article lacks the reliable sources that could do so. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:43, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- ArcAngel (talk) (review) 00:44, 31 December 2009 (UTC) Delete per nom. While Rainy Davis does indeed appear to be notable (I was forced to withdraw my Afd of her article within minutes, I'm ashamed to say) I'm surprised at how barren FisherQueen's Gsearch results are. Here's the AfD I should have posted. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's a google search, which turns up, as far as I can see, mostly lyrics pages and public relations stuff, but nothing from actual news sources. That's why I used Google News to do the search- it searches newspapers, magazines, and online news sources, while filtering out things like lyrics pages, that wouldn't be relevant. I gather from your comment that you are unfamiliar with it? Music news does show up well using Google News; here's what the search results for Mariah Carey look like. I didn't try google books or google scholar, since, as you say, music results aren't likely to be found there. Did you find any actual published writing about Pete Warner? I'm assuming that you are Pete Warner, or a close associate of his, so if anything's been written in depth in newspapers, magazines, or books, you're likely to know about it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 03:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rainysong's reply to last unblock decline

Here is Wkipedia URL to valdate credibility for Pete Warner & Rainy Davis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_1's_(Mariah_Carey_album)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rainysongs (talk • contribs) 07:48 (UTC), 31 December 2009

Please let me know how I can comply with Wikipedia standards I am more than happy to do so.

Kindest Regards - Pete Warner

Another link: http://www.mariah-charts.com/chartdata/PSweetheart.htm

What's needed is significant writing about Pete Warner. When a person is a notable musician, they get written about- magazine profiles, newspaper articles about their accomplishments, books about them, interviews in Rolling Stone... those are the sources we are searching for. At Wikipedia, we all promise to avoid writing about ourselves- the very best thing you could do is leave this alone, trusting that your many fans will inevitably use the available sources to write about you. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia editors: I thank you for your assistance and detailed comments on the correct usage of Wikipedia. I would consider incorporating these comments in such a way as to add additional instructions in the Five Pillars because they have been more than helpful. If afforded the opportunity I would like to attempt a re-write on Pete Warner's page in order to comply with the explained and detailed Wikipedia protocol. If allowed to resume editing, i'm certain you will notice that your comments and suggestions were well received and and will be implemented. At that point any adjustments you may want to advise would again be welcomed.

If your decision is to allow this to move forward, adhering to Wikipedia policieswill be followed accordingly. Please advise the preferred method for login regarding the re-write so it is not solely from an ip address.

I'm doubtful you really understand what is asked of editors in terms of neutrality, but if you do want to continue you will need to propose a username for yourself that is not based in any way on your company name. You should also read WP:PROMOTION and take it to heart. That's where you're likely to run into problems again, IMO. good luck, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:55, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shawn - I would like to propose either of the following usernames: 1. Royalpalm 2. Warnerpro Awaiting your reply - Thank You

I'm not an admin. Just follow the same procedure you used last time to formally suggest one of these names. Royalpalm would seem to be the safest (unless this is another company of yours). Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:42, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can't help noticing that you responded to my advice about not writing about oneself by promising to write better about yourself, which is not quite the same thing. Are you at all interested in participating at Wikipedia in any way other than writing about yourself? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Rainysongs (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Royalpalm (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Decline reason:

Given the concerns expressed by the other editors on this page, I am declining this request. — Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Stop... at a WHAMMY!!)} 21:45, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposing yet another new name for your account is not going to help with your unblock. What we would like to hear is that you are intending to do something more on Wikipedia than simply write about yourself. EdJohnston (talk) 20:58, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

... or business partner Rainy Davis. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:04, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in contributing various content additions to Wikipedia to actively show my concern for others by exercising my knowledge, skills and abilities. Learning new things in the process along the way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.40.181 (talk) 21:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am now logged in pardon last unsigned entry. I am interested in contributing various content additions to Wikipedia to actively show my concern for others by exercising my knowledge, skills and abilities. Learning new things in the process along the way.

I could be wrong, but I don't think you're likely to persuade anyone to unblock you without a much clearer promise to avoid writing about yourself and your colleagues. Personally, I think what we're doing here is beautiful and inspiring- trying to provide free, reliable knowledge to the world. We can always use more volunteers who want to be part of it. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to be part of the team that provides this type of knowledge based resource to people. With respect to writing about self, my demonstration of scaling down what was previously written would be my 1st commitment to the Wikipedia team. Afford me that opportunity then we have at least established a trust and level of confidence. It would be an honor to volunteer my time when needed to the Wikipedia team.

In other words: No, you are not willing to stop writing about yourself, and have no specific plans for writing about anything else. It's a shame, because you probably have lots of knowledge that would be very useful, but I respect your choice. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, I want to significantly cut back what Is written about Pete Warner in order to adhere to Wikipedia protocol. I have no intention to write anything more! And yes there are other specific areas I would like to write about that would be informative and useful to people. Though my prior statement may have sent the wrong signal, I do appreciate your compliment and YES - I would like to share knowledge and be part of your team.

I haven't received a response since I responded to FisherQueen (Wikipedia Editor). I am not able to gain access to the page that is the topic of discussion. I would sincerely appreciate a response as soon as possible and the ability to have access to the page in order to bring closure to our discussions.

Jan. 6, 2010 - 3:47 pm / Again, I request a response from Wikipedia Editor FisherQueen???