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Well...here's my talk page. If anyone has questions about an edit I did, please put it here. --Silver seren 14:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposed decision posted regarding Yasuke

In the open Backlash to diversity and inclusion arbitration case (also called Yasuke), in which you offered a preliminary statement, the proposed findings and remedies have been posted—though you are not mentioned in any of them. If you wish, you may review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For a guide to the proposed decision, see Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Proposed decision. SilverLocust 💬 00:34, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Gail Damerow

Here's one with potential: Draft:Gail Damerow. She's written books that have been widely read by gardeners and livestock hobbyists for decades. Thriley (talk) 16:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Added to my list. :) Silverseren^C 17:07, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Verna Mersereau

On 28 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Verna Mersereau, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that American stage actress Verna Mersereau performed her traditional classical dances before royalty in Calcutta? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Verna Mersereau. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Verna Mersereau), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome Silver seren! I'm glad that you are joining the November 2024 drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

Cielquiparle (talk) 13:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Re: Sonya Friedman

Hey, nice work on Sonya Friedman. Do you think the Books subsection should be placed at the end, after Personal life, per MOS:APPENDIX? Viriditas (talk) 21:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I usually prefer putting Personal life at the end of the subsections because it's extra information about the person separate from anything related to their notability in almost all cases. If you want to swap them, feel free, but I prefer to personally structure them the current way. Silverseren^C 21:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

That's interesting! I didn't know anyone did that. Cool. Viriditas (talk) 21:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey, regarding ALT0, how do you feel about de-linking self-help, perhaps in another ALT, such that the link to the bio is first link in the hook? This tends to improve page views. Viriditas (talk) 22:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the suggestion. Silverseren^C 22:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Great. And nice job archiving all of the sources. I am doing a final read through now. Viriditas (talk) 22:37, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

The distance between the quote "never really developed as a person" is several sentences and is presumably found at the end of the paragraph instead of the quote. I can't follow all the changes to the policies and guidelines, but I thought at one time we were required to quote at the end of the quote, not just the sentence or paragraph, I don't know. I did find some old vestige of this guidance in a template no less:

If a quoted phrase is the subject of discussion, once its "provenance" has been established by an initial citation, it is not necessary to require further citations at each subsequent mention. Where a citation at the end of a sentence refers to a quoted phrase, the proximity of a quoted phrase to the citation is of significance. The more words between the quoted phase and the citation, the less clear it is that the quote is drawn from the citation.

It was "quote phrase".[1] (clear)

It was "quote phrase" that did this.[1] (reasonably clear)

It was "quote phrase" that did this, that and the other thing and something else.[1] (unclear)

Resolved as:

It was "quote phrase"[1] that did this, that and the other thing and something else - not to mention a few other things.[1]

In the resolved case, it is clear that the quoted phrase is supported by a citation and not an editorial use of quote marks.

Viriditas (talk) 22:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I've extended the reference to just behind the quote. Does that fix the problem, Viriditas? Silverseren^C 23:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. Viriditas (talk) 23:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

WP:CONTRACT: "By 1976, she had become disillusioned with her position, thinking she wasn't yet good enough at her work for the special correspondents role." Change "wasn't" to "was not". Viriditas (talk) 00:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

A television show for her titled Telling Secrets With Sonya was aired by the USA Network from 1982 until 1985.

This is a tough one. It looks like it is referred to by three different names. In TV Guide and industry sources, they call it Telling Secrets. In some sources, as you have noted, it is informally referred to as Telling Secrets with Sonya. However in 1985, USA Network advertised the show in print as "Telling Secrets with Sonya Friedman".[1] Viriditas (talk) 00:18, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

In 1994, Sonya Live on CNN was replaced with Talk Back Live.

Talk Back Live should be in italics. Viriditas (talk) 00:21, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Two more things:

Friedman published what she referred to as the "last of my self-help books" in 1991 titled On a Clear Day You Can See Yourself. It wrapped up the information from her prior books, with Friedman saying she was "out of advice" and that it was time for "women to grow up".

Given the explosive nature of that statement, it would be informative and instructive for the reader to expand on what she meant for "women to grow up", as it isn't clear. One additional sentence should suffice. I understand if you can't do this, but I did want to leave you this suggestion. Viriditas (talk) 00:25, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

She also published a new book in 1994 titled Secret Loves that featured interviews with over 100 women from normal backgrounds who were monogamous with two men at the same time.

It isn't clear what "normal backgrounds" means here, so perhaps you could be more precise? That's all the comments I have and I will complete the review now. Viriditas (talk) 00:25, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Beth Kempton

On 4 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Beth Kempton, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that self-help author Beth Kempton held positions at both the 2002 FIFA World Cup in Tokyo and the 2012 Summer Olympics in London? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Beth Kempton. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Beth Kempton), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Arbitration case request declined

Hi Silver seren. The Wikipediocracy-related conduct case request has been declined. While the arbitrators were closely divided, there was not an absolute majority to accept the case. For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust 💬 06:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Sonya Friedman (opera)

I noticed some of the linked articles to Sonya Friedman appear to actually be for another Sonya Friedman. I think she may meet GNG. Thriley (talk) 18:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

That'll be...interesting to try and separate out the sources. Maybe adding opera as a keyword will be enough. I'll add her to the list! Silverseren^C 21:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)