User talk:Stolpygo
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November 2015
[edit] Please do not add or change content, as you did at Kievan Rus, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Caution for addition of unsourced material and claims ("Poliane was the tribe that later become known as Rus' (see, e.g., V.A. Klyuchevsky [1]), apparently after absorbing some amount of Varangians. ") that are not supported by the reference given. Thomas.W talk 03:38, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
This was actually a correct reference. V.A. Klyuchevsky writes "По поводу известия о проходе венгров мимо Киева в 898 г он (Нестор - Stolpygo) вспоминает о деятельности Кирилла и Мефодия и о ее значение для славянства. Был один язык славянский - славяне дунайские, покоренные венграми,морава,чехи,ляхи и поляне-русь." (Проф. В. Ключевский "Курс русской истории," часть I, 1937, Государственное социально-экономическое издательство, Москва, 1937, страница 88, and В.А. Ключевский "О русской истории," Просвящение, Москва 1993, 23-24). The relevant part of it in the English translation would be "... It was one Slavic language - Dunabe slavs, conquered by Hungarians, Morava, Czech, Poles, and Poliane-Rus'." Stolpygo (talk) 04:38, 22 November 2015 (UTC) That is, poliane and Rus' is an identity according to Klyuchevsky. Stolpygo (talk) 04:58, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- The source does not in any way support what you tried to add to the article (
"Poliane was the tribe that later become known as Rus' ( ... ), apparently after absorbing some amount of Varangians. "
). You can not add material unless you have a source that explicitly says what you're trying to add, and Klyuchevsky doesn't say anything like what you're trying to add. So what you're doing is trying to add a load of unsourced POV original research to the article, with what could easily be seen as a fake reference, and you've done it twice now. But don't do it again. And on top of that you also made many other changes to the article, with no source for it at all... Thomas.W talk 05:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)