User talk:Thereader07

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yes i just created an article about the author andrew arvedon, but for some reason it was delted by some guy named elmer clark, citing reasons that are untrue. elmer says that the publisher who published arvedon's book, is a vanity press, which is not true. his publisher pays authors for their work, as well as royalites on books, which vanity presses do not. Vanity presses make the author pay to have their book published. SO i would like to know why this elmer clark guy has say over what goes on and what doesnt, and what i need to do to make sure this author has his own page on this site {{helpme}}

Okay, firstly I'm not going to get entangled in the whole "vanity press" thing.. Basically the book, author etc isn't notable enough See WP:NOTE. It's up to the consensus of the community to decide if it stays or not, although 6 google hits and no Amazon SalesRank will most likely not help its cause. — D e on555 ^talk_Review 03:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Deletion" of Andrew arvedon[edit]

Please note that Elmer Clark did not delete the article Andrew arvedon. He proposed it for deletion, and then after you removed the proposed deletion tag (which you have the right to do), he nominated it for deletion. The nomination for deletion process generally lasts 5 days and the article remains in Wikipedia until the process is complete. If you can come up with good reasons why Andrew Arvedon is notable enough for a Wikipedia article (see WP:BIO for criteria), then his article will probably be kept. Otherwise, it won't. Any registered user has the right to nominate an article for deletion, but any registered (or non-registered) user has the right to participate in the discussion as to whether such an article should be kept or not. --Metropolitan90 03:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[after edit conflict]

Feel free to voice your opinion in the deletion discussion (it hasn't been deleted yet!). I have no more say in the discussion than you or anyone else; I simply felt the subject was not notable and opened up the discussion for others to weigh in. The consensus among the participants will determine whether is gets deleted. You might want to read over the site's general notability criteria and WP:BOOK to see the general criteria a subject has to meet to be included here -- it's not an indiscriminate collection of information. If you have any more questions, you can ask me on my talk page or the help desk. Good luck with your writing. -Elmer Clark 03:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I should probably explain the difference between the "proposed for deletion" and the "nominated for deletion" processes. The "proposed for deletion" process is a method whereby anyone can propose an article for deletion, but if anyone else objects at all, they can remove the proposed deletion tag and that article can never be submitted for "proposed deletion" again. (That's what happened previously with Andrew arvedon. If nobody objects to the proposed deletion, the article will be deleted after five days.

By contrast, when an article is "nominated for deletion", there is a discussion on the Articles for Deletion page and typically multiple people submit opinions for either deleting or keeping the article. Andrew arvedon is currently in that discussion stage. (Note that unlike proposed deletion, the "nominated for deletion" tag may not be removed until the discussion is over.) If there is a consensus to delete the article after five days, the article will be deleted; otherwise, it will be kept. --Metropolitan90 03:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]