User talk:This, that and the other/For the Common Good

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This page is for general discussion of For the Common Good, as well as any feedback, bugs, and suggested improvements relating to the tool.

Note that this tool is entirely separate of Twinkle.

I tend not to look at my watchlist very often, so to ensure I see your message, please feel free to ping me at the start of your post: {{ping|This, that and the other}} Thanks, This, that and the other (talk)

Bad examples of own work[edit]

@This, that and the other: you asked me here to provide some examples of where users incorrectly used own work. I have compiled a bunch over the past 17 months. They are here: User:Magog the Ogre/bad own work. Clearly it seems users are not understanding something. Magog the Ogre (t c) 00:10, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Magog. It is tempting to say "if you could only find 8 instances over 17 months, I think there are other, bigger things to worry about". But I have to bear in mind that not many people use FtCG, and if the number of users using the tool went up, I imagine we would see a corresponding increase in this problem, which would give FtCG a bad reputation among Commons patrollers.
I might add a pop-up confirmation dialog box, to appear the first time someone transfers a file using FtCG with the {{own work by original uploader}} text left unchanged in the Commons file description. This would require them to explicitly acknowledge that they have checked that the file is indeed the uploader's own work. I don't have much time to develop this feature right now, but I will keep it in mind. — This, that and the other (talk) 10:52, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Just to clarify, this wasn't 8 instances, this was 8 different users. There were at very least dozens of instances, possibly hundreds. Maybe make the text bigger or clearer; think like a lost newbie. I don't use the product; I'm grasping at straws too. But I've definitely noticed that more users than not tick this incorrectly. Magog the Ogre (t c) 01:29, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

403 forbidden[edit]

Hi again, @This, that and the other:, and I'm sorry to come here with another problem. When I try to transfer a file, I get the following error message: "The remote server returned an error: (403) Forbidden". I hoped it was a password problem (since I changed my PW a few months ago), but after deleting and re-downloading FTCG with my current PW I get the same error. Hope this is fixable, because even with Magog's script I find CommonsHelper clunky and time-consuming. Thanks again and all the best, Miniapolis 14:08, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Such a pleasant surprise to actually fix something :-); leaving "Use HTTPS (secure connection)" checked in Settings (I'd unchecked it due to previous problems) fixed the problem. I wonder if an HTTP-HTTPS incompatibility was to blame, since I was logged in on the secure server. Thanks again and all the best, Miniapolis 14:26, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Miniapolis! I'm glad you worked out what the matter was. I probably should remove that HTTPS checkbox, since FtCG no longer works with HTTPS turned off. Thanks for pointing it out. — This, that and the other (talk) 00:47, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Redirected categories[edit]

@This, that and the other: can you improve FtCG by making it to detect [and fix automatically] introduced categories if they are redirected (like it's done by HotCat, for example)? On commons currently are some bots that work on this task regulary or periodically[1], but probably it would be better if the tool will do the fix automatically. This feature may be added as a user preference as well, if not as a default function. --XXN, 12:42, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi XXN, yes, I agree, this would be good to have. I have little time for working on FtCG at the moment, but I will keep it in the to-do list. Thanks! — This, that and the other (talk) 00:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

New source: User uploads (suggestion)[edit]

A suggestion, to make available a new source of files for transfer - User uploads. XXN, 16:17, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

An issue with FtCG special variables[edit]

Seems that FtCG special variables (%%OriginalUploader%% and %%InterwikiLinkPrefix%%) not always works in [Replacement]. The built-in default instances included works as expected, but if I'm trying to add new ones for the {{Information}} template, at least for me they does not work.[2][3] Can't understand why. The regex $n captures works fine. In these screenshots is a test case trying to find a way in which they works; previously I've also tested them separately and same issue was encountered. --XXN, 17:32, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

As you can see, this was a try to change always by default {{own}} → {{own work by original uploader}}. This probably is a useful and needed thing for many other users, and probably it even can be included as a built-in feature (example). XXN, 17:46, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Two-factor authentication[edit]

Hi This, that and the other, thanks for the wonderful program. I've run into a new problem now that I'm an admin. If I have two-factor authentication enabled on enwiki, I get a login failure warning when transferring files to Commons. I don't expect it's an easy fix (maybe OAuth would work?), but I figured I'd let you know. It'd be great to have 2FA enabled and still be able to use FtCG. clpo13(talk) 22:12, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Would Meta:Special:BotPasswords work for that? I haven't tried it yet. --Closeapple (talk) 08:36, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
@Closeapple: That worked! Thanks for the tip. clpo13(talk) 16:05, 12 May 2017 (UTC)